From nobody Fri Aug 4 09:11:02 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4RHKh80pxqz4gtXp for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:11:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: from fuz.su (fuz.su [IPv6:2001:41d0:8:e508::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "fuz.su", Issuer "fuz.su" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4RHKh75Gntz4JDT; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 09:11:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from fuz.su (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 3749B258094860 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 4 Aug 2023 11:11:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz@fuz.su) Received: (from fuz@localhost) by fuz.su (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 3749B27a094858; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 11:11:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from fuz) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 11:11:02 +0200 From: Robert Clausecker To: John Baldwin Cc: Mark Millard , freebsd-arch Subject: Re: Future of 32-bit platforms (including i386) Message-ID: References: <07405397-366b-9171-0144-9b22caa7868d@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-arch List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <07405397-366b-9171-0144-9b22caa7868d@FreeBSD.org> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4RHKh75Gntz4JDT X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16276, ipnet:2001:41d0::/32, country:FR] Hi John, Am Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 09:34:17PM -0700 schrieb John Baldwin: > On 8/3/23 2:36 PM, Mark Millard wrote: > > John Baldwin wrote on > > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 19:57:08 UTC : > > > >> On 7/27/23 10:49 AM, shurd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >>> On 2023-05-24 01:35, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 23 May 2023 16:46:51 -0700 > >>>> John Baldwin wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 4/27/23 10:19 AM, John Baldwin wrote: > >>>>>> . . . > >> > >> It's not just about make tinderbox, it is also about keeping platforms > >> viable. One big example is that we probably need to start supporting the > >> use of rust in the base system in some form in the not too distant > >> future, but rust isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD (and someone would > >> need to do the work to make that happen). > > > > I'm confused about the "isn't supported on armv7 on FreeBSD" > > claim: > > Please see https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=254853 > as an example. According to that bug at least rustc is not doable > under qemu-user which is how armv7 packages are built. It builds natively just fine. This is a problem with qemu-user, not rust. Yours, Robert Clausecker > -- > John Baldwin > > -- () ascii ribbon campaign - for an 8-bit clean world /\ - against html email - against proprietary attachments