From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 18:37:45 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2CF1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F2D88FC0C for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:37:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from prad@towardsfreedom.com) Received: from pd6ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.153.163]) by pd5mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2008 11:37:44 -0700 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=3tcz3bTJAAAA:8 a=KoDPwd6_AAAA:8 a=0QrI9hl6Y-VxU0WSP2QA:9 a=VTI0tMrnIL26rornPuoA:7 a=peTko2MIrl30G8m6X9g1DQQJMsIA:4 a=D02SvSX6Ox4A:10 a=hMM2GHGroxMA:10 Received: from s0106000d935c7902.du.shawcable.net (HELO gom.home) ([70.67.160.177]) by pd6ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 11 Dec 2008 11:37:43 -0700 Received: from gom.home (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gom.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CE201701E for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:37:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:37:42 -0800 From: prad To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20081211103742.21621a6d@gom.home> In-Reply-To: <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <11167f520812070853i3b6fa6dei6e5c71669416470@mail.gmail.com> <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207193517.GA20905@laverenz.de> <20081207121431.5dcb37f9@gom.home> <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.3.1 (GTK+ 2.12.1; i386-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:37:45 -0000 On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 20:51:22 +1000 Da Rock wrote: > The possibility here is the bells and whistles strangely enough DO > work in tune and without sore lips... FreeBSD could be THAT good. > i'm not so sure that is really "THAT good". bells and whistles if not carefully thought out and implemented can add to instability. possibly more important, they can pervert the original good idea. i think the newer kde's is a case in point (from my personal experience, albeit). version 3 was good (despite the occasional crash). version 4 seemed to try to do all sorts of stuff and outdo windoze at being windoze. i'm using dwm :D i think this issue was dealt with rather well in the openbsd faq: ------------- 1.10 - Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system? This question is often asked in exactly this manner -- with no explanation of what the asker means by "desktop". The only person who can answer that question is you, as it depends on what your needs and expectations are. While OpenBSD has a great reputation as a "server" operating system, it can be and is used on the desktop. Many "desktop" applications are available through packages and ports. As with all operating system decisions, the question is: can it do the job you desire in the way you wish? You must answer this question for yourself. http://openbsd.org/faq/faq1.html#Desktop ------------- while i agree with you as far as having suitable driver accessibility, i don't see why one system needs to try to be all things to all people. -- In friendship, prad ... with you on your journey Towards Freedom http://www.towardsfreedom.com (website) Information, Inspiration, Imagination - truly a site for soaring I's