From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 13 16:20:01 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F215316A420 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:20:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848C713C455 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:20:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from roberthuff@rcn.com) Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2007 11:19:58 -0500 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id JLI44736; Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from 209-6-22-188.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com (HELO jerusalem.litteratus.org.litteratus.org) ([209.6.22.188]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 13 Dec 2007 11:18:46 -0500 From: Robert Huff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18273.23460.803313.545671@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:19:48 -0500 To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith In-Reply-To: <476137D2.6080501@math.missouri.edu> References: <200712130232.27944.david@vizion2000.net> <2BC5322B-368E-4C2F-AC8A-6088FD381793@FreeBSD.org> <476137D2.6080501@math.missouri.edu> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.5 (beta28) "fuki" XEmacs Lucid X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Cc: David Southwell , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org, Ade Lovett Subject: Re: results of ports re-engineering survey X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:20:02 -0000 Stephen Montgomery-Smith writes: > I understand that you might have a private definition of ports@ > that it should only discuss the current system. But if this is > all you come to this group for, just press the delete key when it > is not something you are personally interested in. I have no such restriction, I think complaints are on-topic. I wish those trying to build a better mousetrap prompt and complete success. And I congratulate them for putting code on paper. On the other hand ... once the discussion has moved from "Something oughta be done." to "We've started a project." - especially one that will generate enough light (never mind heat) on its own, it's time to take it elsewhere (within the larger FreeBSD environment). Wiki, special mailing list, private mailing list, whatever works. If I'm interested in the project, I gain by having all the bits in one place and not having to filter against the generic "java/OpenOffice/ won't compile/is slow/ate my poodle" traffic. If I'm not interested in the project, well, we can all fill in the details. A monthly or bi-weekly announcement would not be out of line. Robert Huff