From owner-cvs-all Wed Nov 21 11:51:32 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from espresso.q9media.com (espresso.q9media.com [216.254.138.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF1637B417; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 11:51:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by espresso.q9media.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fALJoM168466; Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:50:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike) Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:50:22 -0500 From: Mike Barcroft To: Akinori MUSHA Cc: Brian Somers , Sheldon Hearn , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man1 builtin.1 src/bin/sh Makefile builtins.def sh.1 src/usr.bin/printf printf.1 Message-ID: <20011121145022.B63472@espresso.q9media.com> References: <5181.1006282330@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <200111211058.fALAwDj01626@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> <8666844buz.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8666844buz.wl@archon.local.idaemons.org>; from knu@iDaemons.org on Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 08:11:48PM +0900 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [This speaks more to your comment than change, but I do agree with Bruce that removing printf as a builtin is wrong.] Akinori MUSHA writes: > However, I'm not willing to MFC the removal to STABLE because it may > force the STABLE users to rewrite their hacked rc scripts, while we > don't need to care that much about the CURRENT users. That's a misconception. -CURRENT will eventually become -STABLE, so it's important that -CURRENT not be radically different from -STABLE. A new point-zero release is a good opportunity to change things that shouldn't be changed in an established branch, but doesn't give one carte blanche to make changes that make the transition from 4.x to 5.x even more difficult. Best regards, Mike Barcroft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message