From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Mar 21 21:14:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.lariat.org (lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D580737BCD7 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.lariat.org [206.100.185.2]) by lariat.lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00331; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:14:02 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000321220638.0412fd50@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 22:13:58 -0700 To: Rahul Siddharthan , Terry Lambert From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: On "intelligent people" and "dangers to BSD" Cc: J McKitrick , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <200003211912.MAA02060@usr06.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:50 PM 3/21/2000 , Rahul Siddharthan wrote: >Exactly. But who's making these points out loud? I see hardly any >mention of the case at all in the general press, and most of that >is either RIAA/MPAA sympathetic or grossly misinformed; and the >few intelligent comments generally come from the "linux >community". The BSD crowd may be "balanced" but change requires >some level of activism, which I feel RMS, ESR et al are much >better at doing. In fact, if anyone in the general public is >aware of free software as an option, it is because of these >loudmouths; I have long advocated the development of some "loudmouths" in the BSD community. They should be more SENSIBLE "loudmouths" than RMS or ESR, but they should be there and should be vocal. Unfortunately, there are some key people in the BSD crowd -- JKH in particular -- who seem to oppose any sort of strident advocacy. I agree with Jordan on other matters, but think he is very much mistaken about this. So, I've taken matters into my own hands somewhat. For instance, by getting BSD a track at the O'Reilly Conference and by kicking off some projects which I am not at liberty to discuss yet. I think in the end even JKH will agree that the things I'm doing are good. (In fact, as a key player in BSD, Inc., he may actually benefit more than me from them monetarily. Which is fine; he's devoted far more of his life to BSD UNIX than I have so far.) Ultimately, I think time will bear out my convictions. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message