From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 8 18:01:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F32F4FE for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tomek.cedro@gmail.com) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92A3D8FC12 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 18:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id e12so2965584lag.13 for ; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:01:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8BLNVizD0ABkwZnY25lZNLidAhk1+kjIw0yWP58e8ls=; b=vZLC0DSVdPu5M14iX9ISy4FBcJtW192mJMJGaQ0lfD+KpKUfZJbIdt6Fs6oaCePZpV mPhU17xZMMrrUhJ00iEOwJNHVipNhbJ9hxRGJHVym5+pR6wRDH2ltO6kRbqYRqQSgPCK aFXT3e+veDBKxuOV3VNJQV67u59qQU+iJe9x6xtZs1BKMK7jy+sVL9UzFfI/BXSuGktN 4jdnAP/i72JAqEgWfeNqcuQr0jCpVz6LOIF3ZrWzRhV2X0c0W0lfkl7ft6LWumx0dIAs NvIZoxcR06jWok8JNS6fh4yLbo/GGHAk+AO2PqHwcni4xuxvJVWa/PqpNjiv4BV2EgJb fypQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.82.169 with SMTP id j9mr3605730lby.131.1352397685846; Thu, 08 Nov 2012 10:01:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: tomek.cedro@gmail.com Received: by 10.114.0.148 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:01:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.0.148 with HTTP; Thu, 8 Nov 2012 10:01:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <509BE4D2.2010603@wintek.com> References: <201211062158.qA6Lvt2l039276@fire.js.berklix.net> <509BE4D2.2010603@wintek.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:01:25 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: t9ZJaHbXjtweGocE4UG4ucwK6-w Message-ID: Subject: Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-) From: CeDeROM To: rjk@wintek.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Warren Block , "Julian H. Stacey" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:01:28 -0000 Yes, Hal is also required for other applications to detect hardware (i.e. KDE). This is pretty nice feature for desktop environment, maybe unwanted to embedded or dedicated system :-) -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info On Nov 8, 2012 5:59 PM, "Richard Kuhns" wrote: > On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote: > > > >> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-) > >> > >> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2) > >> situation is following: > >> > >> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo > >> option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf. > >> 2. With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg unless > >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" is added to Section "ServerLayout" by > >> hand in xorg.conf. Without this option input does not work even if > >> xorg.conf defines it! AllowEmptyInput=False forces to detect input > deviced > >> by Xorg at startup. > > > > No. AllowEmptyInput is wrong. It was causing so many problems that it > > has been removed from later xorg-server releases. > > > > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" is the one that means "dont' use Hal to > > detect input devices". > > > >> Thank you for this hint! This could be added to the handbook :-) > >> AllowEmptyInput=False should be a default for Xorg IMO we can report it > to > >> the Xorg project! :-) > > > > Really, the simplest solution is to build xorg-server with the HAL > > option disabled. I agree that this should be the default. > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > Just a comment: according to http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox, Hal is > still > required for VirtualBox in order to have host DVD/CD access. > > -- > Richard Kuhns My Desk: 765-269-8541 > Wintek Corporation Internet Support: 765-269-8503 > 427 N 6th Street STE C Consulting: 765-269-8504 > Lafayette, IN 47901-2211 Accounting: 765-269-8502 >