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Date:      Thu, 8 Nov 2012 19:01:25 +0100
From:      CeDeROM <cederom@tlen.pl>
To:        rjk@wintek.com
Cc:        Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: 9.1-RC3 feels okay :-)
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Yes, Hal is also required for other applications to detect hardware (i.e.
KDE). This is pretty nice feature for desktop environment, maybe unwanted
to embedded or dedicated system :-)

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CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info
On Nov 8, 2012 5:59 PM, "Richard Kuhns" <rjk@wintek.com> wrote:

> On 11/08/12 10:45, Warren Block wrote:
> > On Thu, 8 Nov 2012, CeDeROM wrote:
> >
> >> I have tested additional options in xorg runtime :-)
> >>
> >> With the patched xorg mouse driver 1.7.1 (or driver version >=1.7.2)
> >> situation is following:
> >>
> >> 1. With hald and dbus no xorg.conf file is needed. However it might bo
> >> option to pass some additional featutes parameters with xorg.conf.
> >> 2. With no hald and dbus mouse and keyboard does not work in xorg unless
> >> Option "AllowEmptyInput" "False" is added to  Section "ServerLayout" by
> >> hand in xorg.conf. Without this option input does not work even if
> >> xorg.conf defines it! AllowEmptyInput=False forces to detect input
> deviced
> >> by Xorg at startup.
> >
> > No.  AllowEmptyInput is wrong.  It was causing so many problems that it
> > has been removed from later xorg-server releases.
> >
> > Option "AutoAddDevices" "Off" is the one that means "dont' use Hal to
> > detect input devices".
> >
> >> Thank you for this hint! This could be added to the handbook :-)
> >> AllowEmptyInput=False should be a default for Xorg IMO we can report it
> to
> >> the Xorg project! :-)
> >
> > Really, the simplest solution is to build xorg-server with the HAL
> > option disabled.  I agree that this should be the default.
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> Just a comment: according to http://wiki.freebsd.org/VirtualBox, Hal is
> still
> required for VirtualBox in order to have host DVD/CD access.
>
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