From owner-freebsd-bugs Sat Feb 9 3:43:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Received: from newmx.estpak.ee (ld1.estpak.ee [194.126.101.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D0C637B402 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 03:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from myhakas.estpak.ee (myhakas.estpak.ee [194.126.115.54]) by newmx.estpak.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA63960E7; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:42:32 +0200 (EET) Received: (from vallo@localhost) by myhakas.estpak.ee (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g19BhAP06786; Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:43:10 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from vallo) Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 13:43:10 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: Craig Stratton Cc: freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/34711: frequent system stall under moderate scsi load Message-ID: <20020209114310.GB6700@myhakas.estpak.ee> Reply-To: kalts@estpak.ee References: <200202081440.g18Ee3f61695@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200202081440.g18Ee3f61695@freefall.freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.24i-ja.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:40:03AM -0800, Craig Stratton wrote: > The following reply was made to PR kern/34711; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: "Craig Stratton" > To: "David Malone" > Cc: > Subject: Re: kern/34711: frequent system stall under moderate scsi load > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 14:34:03 -0000 > > David, > > i'm not sure if the system time is usual or not. But it sounds like it > shouldn't be... > > It could be a memory problem, as you say, because it only has 64MB, but the > previous system i ran exactly the same things on only had 16MB on a P75 IDE > and had no problems. Uptime over 500 days before replacement with "better" > hardware :-| > Can't remember what release it was on though. Slightly earlier i believe. > > There is never anything logged anywhere whenever the system stalls or hangs, > which is frustrating... > > I think the problem is certainly in the swapping/disk access area, as all > disk operations seem to take a while. When it hangs, i can get ssh login, > but no shell until it comes back. > > I was looking over how to upgrade "in situ" last night, but was too tired to > take it in. > Can you advise how i would go about bringing up to date online with no > physical access to the machine ? (other than carefully .. ;-) ) > > The most i do normally is install from scratch, and add/configure > software/applications.... > > ahc0: port 0x6000-0x60ff mem > 0xe4000000-0xe4000fff irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0 > ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs > pci0: at 10.0 irq 9 > > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da1: 4136MB (8471232 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 4136MB (8471232 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 527C) Those SCSI Quantum Fireball ST disks are _really_ slow. I've had one some years ago and never got more than 2.5-3MB/s _sequential_ read throughput, it didn't matter was it under FreeBSD or NT 4.0. Random access throughput is worse.. -- Vallo Kallaste kalts@estpak.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message