From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 14 11:46:22 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E22137B401 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED0143FE9 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:46:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA08114; Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:46:10 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook renders your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20030814124234.02a08540@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 12:46:04 -0600 To: Kris Kennaway From: Brett Glass In-Reply-To: <20030814074336.GA58098@rot13.obsecurity.org> References: <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> <200308140525.XAA02934@lariat.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" cc: freebsd-crap@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: All "GNU" software potentially Trojaned X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 18:46:22 -0000 At 01:43 AM 8/14/2003, Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Wed, Aug 13, 2003 at 11:25:04PM -0600, Brett Glass wrote: >> CERT Advisory CA-2003-21 GNU Project FTP Server Compromise > >This never would have happened if they had used the BSDL! Not true, of course. But on the other hand, the fact that FreeBSD uses their code means that it may have integrated Trojaned source. Another reason to avoid using code from a group that's not only unethical and malicious but also careless about security. Kris, as a member of FreeBSD's security team I hope you're checking to make sure that Trojaned code was not included. (The most effective way would, of course, be to remove the GNU code from FreeBSD, but while I'd like to see that done it's probably too much to hope for.) --Brett Glass