From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 3 9: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4551536F for ; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:00:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA10275; Tue, 3 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37A70DB1.E3784E60@gorean.org> Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 08:41:37 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0730 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter McGarvey Cc: Greg Lehey , David Kudrav , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, kudra001@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: basic info on freebsd needed... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter McGarvey wrote: > What makes it easier? Well, here is my experience with RedHat Linux 6.0.... > > I started the installation, answered lots of questions then waited 15 mins. > When my machine rebooted I was straight into X with gnome/enlightenment all > nicely setup. > > And now my experience with FreeBSD.... > > I started the installation, answered lots of questions then waited 15 mins. > I didn't setup X as the last time I tried it caused the whole installation > to crap-out. When my machine rebooted I was straight a wonderful command > prompt. I then launched sysinstall again and configured my X server and my > desktop. Then I had to wade through the ports and once I'd worked out what > I needed it took about three hours to get in all compiled and installed. > > So, even though I hate to place FreeBSD behind Linux, in this instance I'm > affraid Linux wins. For out of the box configuration FreeBSD is basically a server OS, linux is more of a desktop OS. Therefore your experience is not altogether unexpected. Also, if you had known where to look you could have had X and kde set up just as quickly as linux set up enlightenment for you. In fact, you probably could have had enlightenment set up just as fast, but I don't know for sure because I use kde and don't have any experience with the other wm ports. All that being said, the OOB is important, and freebsd tools tend to be written for people who already know the system. Then again, that's true of most unices that I've worked with. Is one or the other more "intuitive?" I'm not in a position to judge that, but you can't say that the tools aren't there for freebsd because they are. The only matter of contention is how they are presented. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message