From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Wed May 15 16:28:31 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CE7159821A for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E728294461 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 16:28:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id x4FGSNmf092330 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 18:28:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu Subject: Re: FreeBSD flood of 8 breakage announcements in 3 mins. To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <201905151544.x4FFiR0G067138@fire.js.berklix.net> <6CE35CEB-C2AB-47B1-AA86-BC9C91B2B8A6@gmail.com> From: Andrea Venturoli Message-ID: <5d74a839-50ef-d8c0-b541-15d9b875b7e2@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 18:28:23 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <6CE35CEB-C2AB-47B1-AA86-BC9C91B2B8A6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: E728294461 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.96 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.963,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 16:28:31 -0000 On 5/15/19 6:16 PM, Matt Garber wrote: > Exactly. If batching 8 (or more) individual bugs/issues together into > one release is really causing admin/manpower overload and angst,then > maybe it’s time in your situation to use the binary updates (which > would only be a single `freebsd-update` and reboot, so there would > be no ‘sudden unplanned outages’) rather than tracking src and > remediating each individual bug at a time. Maybe I'm dumb, but I still don't get what "src vs binary" has to do with "8 vs 1"... I ran a single "svn update; make buildworld; make kernel; make installworld; reboot", not 8... bye av.