From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 13 03:59:05 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7866916A407 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:59:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B08843CA0 for ; Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:57:38 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from youshi10@u.washington.edu) Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id kBD3x4I4018891 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:59:04 -0800 X-Auth-Received: from [192.168.0.101] (dsl254-013-145.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.254.13.145]) (authenticated authid=youshi10) by smtp.washington.edu (8.13.7+UW06.06/8.13.7+UW06.09) with ESMTP id kBD3x4ov025165 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:59:04 -0800 Message-ID: <457F7A87.9010000@u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 19:59:03 -0800 From: Garrett Cooper User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (X11/20061116) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6.2.3.4.2.20061212153306.0321bc30@mailsvr.xxiii.com> <000801c71e50$93fc9750$3c01a8c0@coolf89ea26645> <20061213020139.GD34082@wantadilla.lemis.com> <457F77E8.30703@u.washington.edu> <20061213035621.GH34082@wantadilla.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20061213035621.GH34082@wantadilla.lemis.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.94.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Version: 5.2.2.285561, Antispam-Engine: 2.5.0.283055, Antispam-Data: 2006.12.12.194432 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report='LEO_OBFU_SUBJ_RE 0.1, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CP_URI_IN_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __LINES_OF_YELLING 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __USER_AGENT 0' Subject: Re: List Protocol X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:59:05 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Tuesday, 12 December 2006 at 19:47:52 -0800, Garrett Cooper wrote: >> Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> On Tuesday, 12 December 2006 at 16:49:39 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>>> Until then STFU you ungrateful bastards. All you once were dumb >>>> newbies who didn't know FreeBSD from free beer, and I'll bet more >>>> than a few of you sent e-mail to questions, thinking it was an >>>> actual person who gave a damn. Boy were you surprised! >>> Ted, there are other aspects of the list protocol. One has to do with >>> message format. You seem to have great difficulty with this one, >>> requiring other people to manually reformat, and often to guess what >>> you're talking about. >>> >>> Another has to do with politeness. You seem to abuse this one again >>> and again; it's one of the reasons why I seldom read this mailing list >>> any more. You've probably driven off a number of people who would be >>> able to give *helpful* answers. Please stop. >>> >>> Greg >> Wayne, et. all, >> There's an obvious reason why the mailing list is open to all, >> so instead of conjecturing on why it's the way it is, we should just >> accept the way it is and leave things like that? > > You sent this only to me, at least according to the headers. Did > Wayne get it? > >> Greg, >> I do empathize with what you said in the past, in regard to what >> I wrote. I've come across many cases in the past where I couldn't solve >> what I needed to get solved by using Google, so I've turned to >> knowledgeable people on the list to help solve my problems, >> respectfully, cause I know that my knowledge or time was limited. >> I just was trying to emphasize the fact that I wanted to teach >> others how to fish, instead of just providing them with the fish, so as >> to speak, as the proverb goes. That way they would strengthen their >> knowledge, as well as benefit the community with their experience. Many >> times people have asked similar questions, which can be solved more >> quickly by doing a little bit of research on their topic of question. >> I'm not trying to say that my way is right and that it should >> always be done. It's just a means to discovering the truth or solving a >> problem, one of the frustrating and challenging things about life. To >> each and her's their own, but I'm just trying to provide a solution that >> works for me in the hope that the reader will be able to solve their >> problem :). > > I don't have a problem with what you have written (or at least, I > can't recall any such problem :-). I was talking to Ted, who can be > quite obnoxious at times. > > FWIW, I tend to agree with what you say, though that doesn't mean I > won't disagree on a detail at a later date. > > Greg > -- > Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. > See complete headers for address and phone numbers. Understood. I hate it when I reply to the wrong person =\.. Sorry for the extra email and take care! - -Garrett -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFf3qHEnKyINQw/HARAkqgAJ0WoEzC8JIGhWODYLxikLy64bonQQCgjW/u 79gjW00GzJ5InJZLSpPVM3c= =q80r -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----