From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 19 14:03:59 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB88106564A for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:03:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-ww0-f50.google.com (mail-ww0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD20F8FC0A for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:03:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwe6 with SMTP id 6so3995844wwe.31 for ; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.201.207 with SMTP id fb15mr824736wbb.113.1311084237746; Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dfleuriot-at-hi-media.com ([83.167.62.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fe4sm4380351wbb.11.2011.07.19.07.03.55 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 19 Jul 2011 07:03:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4E258ECB.4010508@my.gd> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 16:03:55 +0200 From: Damien Fleuriot User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <201107191349.p6JDn2H2033289@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201107191349.p6JDn2H2033289@mail.r-bonomi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 14:03:59 -0000 On 7/19/11 3:49 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > Do you mean to suggest that an employee _cannot_ give permission to *anyone* > (whether it is the employer, or just a friend) to look at any file that is > categorized as 'private' ?? > > If they can give permission for 'someone' to look at a particular file, > what prevents them from giving that someone permission to look at _every_ > such file? > French law *states* that a private file on a company computer may only be opened either: 1/ in the employee's presence or 2/ if the employee has been duly informed the file will be reviewed Note that the employee's consent is not required. However if the employer cannot prove the employee was informed, their opening of the file is unlawful and subject to prosecution. > If what is forbidden is 'inspecting by a human being', then running > file(1) to build a list of 'suspect' files isn't 'opening' them either. > Nor is a -mechanical- process that checks for 'suspicious' "magic numbers". > Nobody denies this point. What was said however is that IT staff in Europe do not have the power to identify a file as illicit or not. If a file is found to match an allegedly copyrighted one, who's to say the file's owner doesn't have a legit license/right to it ? The file might be a backup, I for one keep backups of our work software in ISO form, and these are perfectly legit. In fact, I actually use the ISO to install the software to other work computers, rather than having to take the CD to each and every one of them. This, per se, is not illegal. What would be illegal would be using software licensed for ONE computer on multiple computers. >>> company computers are for "business use only", that anything on the >>> machines is 'work done for hire', and thus property of the company. >> >> Again, jurisdictions vary widely. We here in Europe are at the farthest >> spectrum in terms of privacy protection of workers (students etc..) in >> the workplace (school etc...). > > Educational institutions here _are_ subject to somewhat differnet rules > than corporates. > > But here, in general, private property _is_ "private property", and the > property owner _can_ dictate -- more-or-less *completely* -- the terms > under which he lets 'anyone else' use _his_ property. > Privacy laws in the EU are kind of... strict... You just can't do anything even if the files reside on a work computer. Even when an email is received on a work mail box, if it is clearly labeled as private you are prohibited to open them (unless, again, the employee is present or has been informed of the act).