From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 12 13:36:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCD31065676 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:36:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ew0-f166.google.com (mail-ew0-f166.google.com [209.85.219.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6AC8FC1A for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:36:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by ewy10 with SMTP id 10so503100ewy.43 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:36:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BpYYz/b0uK0rhKLKxgFTE1Pjw6O/12GnKdH/zSsmIAI=; b=qccQhfNn5vuWi3Yf0wd1AjIrcImpToonR6BZYBUGC9Rwn6xEDAkHkJ3GzJ8h1uFzMv u7ejCqre5MGjw1lvBI5KymhIU3gX1xT14/z6OmyLafKoHMBs+YtuC8nGsfix1WNCMhcE CoADYdLuBc1aC6q065Ht421oONTATmDdx1YKU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=nFSRPemuMONRymla4DZQmvwWVuExZ6pMZ9601M2aWTNSNOzmSmf7enVoJTpPCpdcwq W9/qiu6A5wj8qJhRkEdofhPWtquS3412sxFrgN/e8D3wnpfKmOZmUnpXEXj+0kGiRA+h vuXt1Ia6XSfMemyiiuYrv9W3onsLVAS6iSH2U= Received: by 10.216.49.194 with SMTP id x44mr4012265web.130.1236864990859; Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com (bb-87-81-140-128.ukonline.co.uk [87.81.140.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 28sm679840eyg.35.2009.03.12.06.36.29 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:36:28 +0000 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090312133628.22640ad7@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20090312152340.S71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> References: <20090311175001.21BD41065792@hub.freebsd.org> <20090312152340.S71460@sola.nimnet.asn.au> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.1 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd7.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: torrent client traffic shaping question X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:36:33 -0000 On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:24:37 +1100 (EST) Ian Smith wrote: > On Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:42:23 +0000 RW > > A traffic shaper could efficiently regulate downloads by proxying > > TCP. And even though PF does some limited TCP proxying, > > unfortunately dummynet and altq work at the IP level. > > I don't know why you say 'unfortunately' here? Because tcp is best controlled at the tcp-level You could get smoother, lower-latency transfers, and you're not dropping any packets that have already passed through the ISP bottleneck.