From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 27 04:47:30 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: acpi@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EA216A420; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:47:30 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd4mo1so.prod.shaw.ca (shawidc-mo1.cg.shawcable.net [24.71.223.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A1CB43D5E; Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:47:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from northg@shaw.ca) Received: from pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (pd2mr7so-qfe3.prod.shaw.ca [10.0.141.10]) by l-daemon (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IQL00HPHJZ47250@l-daemon>; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:47:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from pn2ml6so.prod.shaw.ca ([10.0.121.150]) by pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 HotFix 1.01 (built Mar 15 2004)) with ESMTP id <0IQL0093LJZ4BZD0@pd2mr7so.prod.shaw.ca>; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:47:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (S0106000f3d63c5a5.vc.shawcable.net [24.85.154.162]) by l-daemon (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.18 (built Jul 28 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IQL00E6YJZ46W@l-daemon>; Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:47:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.1.362 [267.13.8/183]); Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:47:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:47:28 -0800 From: Graham North In-reply-to: <43891936.7090904@centtech.com> To: Eric Anderson Message-id: <43893A60.4000200@shaw.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-43893A602015=======" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en References: <4383C20E.20509@shaw.ca> <20051123195120.GE908@eucla.lemis.com> <43891936.7090904@centtech.com> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: acpi@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ACPI problems with Dell laptops X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 04:47:30 -0000 --=======AVGMAIL-43893A602015======= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eric, Groggy and all who replied to this my initial enquiry: Thank you for the tips. I tend to favour the Dells also, but the the ACPI does sound like a concern. Will watch this space. Thanks again to all. Cheers, Graham/ Eric Anderson wrote: > Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Tuesday, 22 November 2005 at 17:12:46 -0800, Graham North wrote: >> >>> Am currently trying to choose between a couple of laptops, the luck >>> winner of which will have Freebsd loaded alongside WinXP. >>> >>> Dell Latitude d600 with Radeon 9000? video, intel pro wireless >>> or >>> IBM R51 - Intel Extreme2, intel pro wireless. >>> The main differences will likely be the video and maybe bios, acpi...? >>> Can someone suggest to me whether these are both safe choices? >>> Am I better off installing 5.4 or 6.0? >> >> >> >> I've had both Dell and ThinkPad (no longer IBM). I prefer Dell, >> despite their attempts to convince me otherwise. >> >> However, we currently seem to have significant ACPI problems with Dell >> laptops. I'm writing this on an Inspiron 6000 running 7-CURRENT, but >> the same problems occur with 6.0: if I enable ACPI, timing goes to >> hell, and some things just time out. There was a similar message a >> couple of days ago from an owner of (I think) the latest Latitude >> machine, which sounded even worse. My requests for feedback about how >> to solve the problem have so far not been resolved. If you're >> otherwise tending towards Dell, I'd suggest you watch this space until >> there's some indication that the problems will be resolved. >> >> Nothing of this says that ThinkPads will do better, of course. I >> don't know what the situation is there. > > > Which scheduler are you using? Also, have you tried disabling apic? > I had these same troubles, and worked around them, but I can't recall > the exact trick - I seem to recall disabling apic and/or using 4BSD > scheduler. > > Eric > > > > -- Kindness can be infectious - try it. Graham North Vancouver, BC www.soleado.ca --=======AVGMAIL-43893A602015======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 --=======AVGMAIL-43893A602015=======--