From owner-freebsd-current Wed Mar 11 15:53:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA11192 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:53:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (root@burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11167 for ; Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archer@grape.carrier.kiev.ua) Received: from unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua (unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.113]) by burka.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.Who.Cares) with ESMTP id BAA17283 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:52:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua (kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.111]) by unicorn.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA00271 for ; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:52:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kozlik.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8/8.Who.Cares) with UUCP id BAA10759 for current@freebsd.org; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:46:03 +0200 (EET) Received: (from archer@localhost) by grape.carrier.kiev.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA02402; Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:32:38 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from archer) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 01:32:38 +0200 (EET) From: Alexander Litvin Message-Id: <199803112332.BAA02402@grape.carrier.kiev.ua> To: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Softupdates code not Prime Time yet. X-Newsgroups: grape.freebsd.current In-Reply-To: <19980311195045.19668.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> Organization: Lucky Grape User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980202 (UNIX) (FreeBSD/3.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19980311195045.19668.qmail@iquest7.iquest.net> you wrote: >> >> I have to echo what Julian is saying additionally if you are not prepared >> to give a kernel stack trace and possibly nice printfs of kernel data >> structures then don't try soft updates. I hate bug reports like >> "soft update crashed my system" 8) >> > Pretty much the same with the VM and NFS stuff that I have been > working on. Please, whenever you have problems with the kernel, > a traceback and other such information is very useful. Alot > of traffic for the VM and NFS stuff happens in the background, > where the groups don't see it... People who know the issues > about working on the kernel, also generally know that a statement > about a crash without any kind of information is useless, and > often just gets ignored. > IF one sends the output of a panic only, without the appropriate > portion of the namelist, the info is useless. Sorry, but it would be much easier if it were possible to boot stripped kernels. > John > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message -- Alexander Litvin No SIGNATURE available at this run-level To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message