From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 22 21:02:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E72F01065672 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (gizmo.acns.msu.edu [35.8.1.43]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B1B8FC12 for ; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gizmo.acns.msu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id p8ML1rZE086983; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc@gizmo.acns.msu.edu) Received: (from jerrymc@localhost) by gizmo.acns.msu.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id p8ML1r3d086982; Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jerrymc) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:01:53 -0400 From: Jerry McAllister To: Robert Bonomi Message-ID: <20110922210153.GA86907@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> References: <20110922193051.GA22429@thought.org> <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <201109222014.p8MKEobt083145@mail.r-bonomi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: kline@thought.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: much to my surprise.... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 21:02:40 -0000 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 03:14:50PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011 > > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700 > > From: Gary Kline > > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > > Cc: > > Subject: much to my surprise.... > > > > > > guys, > > > > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got > > back to my desk and could not ping. while mail seemed to be working, > > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server > > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various > > sites. Zero. i tried everything i could think of. NOTHING worked. > > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on. nothing. > > > > *Finally*, i saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red > > LED's. i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the > > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green. > > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org. and i'm pretty sure other > > network things will work too. > > > > from any/all sysadmin types or others:: > > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and > > whatever else. i thought i had collected many. nope. i've got > > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent > > 'vacation.' Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other > > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a > > checklist of what to do to diagnose this? are there any other > > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g? other > > network utilities with a debug flag? i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530. > > > > tia for any insights, > > You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your > systems. > > Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30 > *seconds*. > > If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'. > > If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of > a DNS problem. > > If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you > start looking for a 'connectivity' problem. > > The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'. Which would have > *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ > the problem was. > > Those who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous" > to be trusted with the superuser password. > > Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage > a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and > until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair- > tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you. While your information may be correct and useful, your self-righteous arrogant diatribe is not helpful or appropriate on this list. ////jerry > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"