From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Jan 7 19:02:06 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F83149C3D6 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 19:02:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe32.google.com (mail-vs1-xe32.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e32]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 89E40742D3 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2019 19:02:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aimass@yabarana.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe32.google.com with SMTP id h78so914888vsi.6 for ; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:02:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=x9HlUzUXKK1R8SiuTl8YLkXmeqTbXS+j8U5vQ7fLB3g=; b=RmOLA/0HbQx6CNLZYIh/hyVBMcfXgL2ogssI+N9PqKDPhOl+HOGw6T+B8PP5J3/Jf1 z3nX6pILG/VnoNMFPVkk8G2VhNlBLKX2nvFFCfwVZ6NQMCaK9n4IJ79JtmjrxSlrcDNh DZ5D8wPdUQLo/pEcETk+S6J6cBv0w80ydZ7aXV8gh63a4jGkBLbw9K4NuThIpo3UfaVe lzkiHcl9mmvOYLwBGdBu6VV801OfC0vB7t/dQ4MzoPO14XQGhQCJAXuuuoI9ftVEbafT dIFaadD+fhGR37x9fnDk9NqjNYVo6H+DtzFkXTkj8ihDqnklT01eHYZqASjTcP6ar6tJ cvGQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=x9HlUzUXKK1R8SiuTl8YLkXmeqTbXS+j8U5vQ7fLB3g=; b=Y1a+xvWfz+nivrxO/qAUCswZwqsdXqLSRiMCqxOC7SSyscZ1w87WWSeL1jwgnG5lnB onkrPotEuxLFA11NO1tcOUxg11/5zVTCbAr3nJl8pXZXNG6tRiCcpe3ulxeBPH6HBhod +dp90y3AJXKz1FMagCUfX563yyqlXWk665I8DzUOMV8jIizeGjcW8jHwIBJB84uofss+ A/cJqc+5aSCCkcBIuooSTdNtTMcSwMREx5jV9NFrTWm+QIguEiOydEQHzAs1jx3LX1PP 5mmsIVaN3DQcT9reb70f53kUSrJqLuBqeqGGHiOyCGvS4pjSmr4xhTNj98a/QTkd/+3e hamw== X-Gm-Message-State: AA+aEWa3hP2mczPokjIELYqimF4hnB77U0+GTr2b08k1V90rRNs+SEdS LjYxO4IdU9UKqDBuHneqTIrIkPFMWYscAJgFlMz1Ccbm X-Google-Smtp-Source: AFSGD/WmJnijAWG+R+bK4zBLtbrFKTOeg5RmVrRRiLplZxh3jLzsRLU8KWcTWGqJgCiXzkAb+DSRnFxZTLPPho+wIZY= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f:: with SMTP id 15mr25910824vsa.177.1546887724352; Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:02:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Alejandro Imass Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:01:53 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: [OT] Rebranding Jails To: FreeBSD Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 89E40742D3 X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=RmOLA/0H; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aimass@yabarana.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::e32 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aimass@yabarana.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.04 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[yabarana.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; IP_SCORE(-2.72)[ip: (-9.63), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.20), asn: 15169(-1.68), country: US(-0.08)]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yabarana-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[alt1.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx2.googlemail.com,alt2.aspmx.l.google.com,aspmx3.googlemail.com]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2.3.e.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.82)[-0.815,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2019 19:02:06 -0000 Hey there! Is that time of year for a new hot thread ;-) Sometimes I wonder if rebranding "Jails" to something like "FreeBSD Native Containers" would help evangelize the fact that BSD has had this for ever and maybe perhaps of incorporating EzJail natively into the OS's core. What I'm saying is what is the actual difference from EzJail driven Jails and Docker for example? I have run EzJail based servers even before Docker was around doing mostly the same stuff kids are doing nowadays with Docker. Why can't FBSD have ready made repositories of popular stuff like PostgreSQL, MySQL, ElasticSearch etc. Leveraging the fact that Netflix chose FBSD for some critical services don't you think we could gain mor traction by rebranding stuff like "Jails" and perhaps start catering to a newer crowd that is not entirely in love with Docker and/or Kubernetes? Anyway, just a thought and pardon any flames in advance. Best, Alex