From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Feb 21 09:00:04 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA14811 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 09:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fledge.watson.org (root@FLEDGE.RES.CMU.EDU [128.2.91.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA14772 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 08:59:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from trojanhorse.pr.watson.org (trojanhorse.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.10]) by fledge.watson.org (8.8.8/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA03722; Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:59:17 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:58:21 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@trojanhorse.pr.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Jay Nelson cc: Mark Mayo , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Javascript for project page? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Jay Nelson wrote: > >Hi all. I've been coding up a prototype "FreeBSD Project Database" > >page, and I'm seeking opinions on if I should use Javascript.. > >Javascript lets me do some handy error checking on the client side > >before requests and such get sent into the database server, as well > >as opening up some better design possibilities... I'm concerned however > >that the use of Javascript will limit the number of people that can > >use the site. > > > >Opinions? Is *everybody* using Netscape now, or do a significant > > I use lynx more than netscape. Besides, even in netscape, I don't > accept cookies, java or javascript. Are there other ways of > accomplishing the error checking without excluding people or adding to > their load times? I also use lynx quite frequently -- especially for accessing www.freebsd.org pages (such as the handbook or searching mailing lists). I think retaining full availability to lynx is extremely important. I also disable cookies and javascript in Netscape -- it bugs me greatly, for example, that the United web-site requires me to use cookies to get scheduling information. When I first tried to get scheduling information from their page, it gave me lots of "Page contains no data" type errors. I emailed them to ask why -- their webmaster responded back a week or two later (after my proposed flight, btw) indicating I have to turn cookies on. I sent an email back indicating it was against our policy to let cookies through our firewall (whatever), could they provide a page compatible with our policy? They did not respond. Needless to say, I now use USAir's web page, which is much easier to use (no nasty frames and javascript/cookies crud), and do not buy my tickets from United. Being able to see all the possible schedules before I call is really very helpful, especially if I need to have my flights coincide with someone else's, but meet tham at one of the lay-over points. Similarly, I would not use the project database if it required cookies/javascript. :) United Airlines really bugged me, and no doubt it shows. :) Ah well. Robert N Watson Carnegie Mellon University http://www.cmu.edu/ SafePort Network Services http://www.safeport.com/ robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message