Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:49:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@tensor.3miasto.net> To: Joshua Lewis <jmlewis@dslextreme.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Windows X Message-ID: <20040720223827.E33865@chylonia.3miasto.net> In-Reply-To: <1d4a18aea94bac57a.20040720111303.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com> References: <1d4a18aea94bac57a.20040720111303.wzyrjvf@www.dslextreme.com>
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> space, it does slow down the system, and more software means potentially > more security vulnerabilities. just having X running doesn't seem to slow down system. only using slow and memory hungry software may do it. but i don't see anything wrong in having X on server if it's used as workstation at the same time. if it's started from XDM you may remove suid so no security risk. -nolisten tcp for X server will turn off listening on TCP port - removing rest of possible security problems. > If you decide you must run a GUI because you are unfamiliar with CLI or > you just like them better pick one of the lighter weight window managers. > Yes, they are boring but you do not need a fancy desktop on a Server. anyway why run X server just to run then Xterm and some commands to configure services? > understand wanting to have a cool desktop. KDE is very popular as well as > GNOME. You can see screenshots on their respective websites. > KDE and GNOME is an attempt to replace/look like windows. quite successful - not only in look, but in memory usage, CPU usage, amount of bugs, and level of unneeded complexity, allowing user ONLY use GUI configs to do something. i think that if someone needs something like windows, windows is best choice. > KDE has a cool feature that if set up allows you to pick your window > manager on login (mind you this causes KDE and X windows to be running at this is not KDE feature as all, just kdm (xdm replacement). you may use gdm and possibly other xdm replacements to do it, without need to install KDE. > The community can correct me if I am wrong but applications built for KDE > will run fine on GNOME and vice versa. I think they just may not look as this is not true. most GNOME apps just use GTK2 and run without gnome itself fine. they are NOT dependent on any window manager, as GNOME itself. gimp is an example - i use it with fvwm2. works like any other X app. With KDE apps it's not true. while lot of KDE apps does work without KDE, they actually starts up some daemons taking >20MB RAM to function. this daemons doesn't die by itself after exiting from that apps and take quite amount of CPU time even if you don't do anything, just have app running.
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