From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 11 21:29:23 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 497361065676; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:23c2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D71AE8FC23; Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:23c2::1]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p9BLTLBF077662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:29:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@freebsd.org) Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:29:21 +0200 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: John Baldwin Message-ID: <20111011212921.GG26743@acme.spoerlein.net> References: <20111007141312.GJ26743@acme.spoerlein.net> <201110101301.37276.jhb@freebsd.org> <20111011192125.GF26743@acme.spoerlein.net> <201110111544.27591.jhb@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <201110111544.27591.jhb@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: "Simon L. B. Nielsen" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org, doceng@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Conversion to SVN X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:29:23 -0000 On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 15:44:27 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:21:25 pm Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 13:01:36 -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Also, I think the discontinuous history idea is a compelling reason to not put > > > the doc/www history into source svn. Right now svn changes move forward > > > continuously with time (so change N + 1 is "newer" than change N), but > > > importing doc+www history as changes that are subsequent to the current top of > > > tree would break that. > > > > And? Seriously, does anything depend on that? Sure the "50k revision > > number bump" is not exactly nice, but I honestly don't see a problem > > with it. > > Humans depend on it. That hardly explains anything. Numbers for /head et al. are monotonically increasing. Numbers for /doc inside the src-svn would be monotonically increasing. > > > OTOH, renumbering the current tree to put the doc+www > > > history in the "right" place is simply not workable now. Importing doc+www > > > into the current SVN is something that would have needed to be done during the > > > initial CVS -> SVN conversion, but that ship has sailed. > > > > What's sad is, that there never will be a final VCS for FreeBSD. So > > while currently all commit messages that refer to some RCS revisions are > > rather useless, there will come a time, post-SVN, when all references to > > SVN revisions are useless. > > People importing from our svn into another system will get massive, massive > confusion if we renumbered our depot. That is why we can't renumber it at > this point. I never said we should do that. Cheers, Uli