Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 15:14:17 -0600 From: Chad Perrin <perrin@apotheon.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CLANG vs GCC tests of fortran/f2c program Message-ID: <20120620211417.GC26703@hemlock.hydra> In-Reply-To: <4FE1FD18.7010101@gmail.com> References: <402199FE-380B-41B6-866B-7D5D66C457D5@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206191952250.8234@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <854D02B1-CA89-4F5E-8773-DB05F2868D74@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206200618290.46371@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <op.wf7ero1k34t2sn@tech304> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206201642480.1476@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <op.wf7h1df334t2sn@tech304> <4FE1FD18.7010101@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 08:40:56PM +0400, Евгений Лактанов wrote: > 20.06.2012 18:47, Mark Felder пишет: > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 09:43:14 -0500, Wojciech Puchar > > <email address elided for purposes of courtesy> wrote: > >> [attribution lost by Wojciech Puchar and I'm too lazy to check] > >>> > >>> Why not make FreeBSD better for everyone by cooperating with the > >>> CLANG project? > >> > >> because we already have great compiler - GCC. In spite of using GPL > >> licence. > > > > GCC performs well, but it is a very messy undocumented codebase which > > makes maintaining it a nightmare. Just ask Google -- you'll find many > > others saying the same thing. It would take MORE work to get FreeBSD > > devs up to speed on the GCC codebase to add the features we want than > > it is to cooperate with the CLANG community and help them make their > > compiler better than GCC in every test case. > > It is the classic developer/user argument. It is also stupid. The user > side simply doesn't have the same needs, it can't understand how > freaking hard it is sometimes to debug a large and complex program in a > badly documented environment or worse with undocumented features. If it > works faster ergo it is better - that is the only criteria to really > have a meaning to a user. It's bikeshed painting. Someone who doesn't understand the many factors that apply, and doesn't even *want* to know, picks one thing he thinks he understands and argues about it in an attempt to make the entire project change course. Well, dammit, I *like* blue, and he can take his bucket of red paint home with him to paint his *own* bikeshed. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]
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