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Date:      Sun, 25 Apr 1999 15:25:03 -0700
From:      Darren Pilgrim <dpilgrim@uswest.net>
To:        Mark Ovens <markov@globalnet.co.uk>
Cc:        Chris <chrismar@readington.com>, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ATI Xpert 98?
Message-ID:  <3723963F.4EE0AA9B@uswest.net>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9904241248080.8585-100000@walnut.readington.com> <19990424182647.E256@marder-1> <37229D96.5CDF7C4A@uswest.net> <19990425101351.A253@marder-1>

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Mark Ovens wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 09:44:06PM -0700, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
>> Mark Ovens wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 12:49:55PM -0400, Chris wrote:
>>>> I was curious as to if anyone ha had any problems with this
>>>> card.  How does it work under X?
>>>
>>> I've got an Xpert@Work (Rage Pro II chipset) and it works fine
>>> (Mach64 X server). Previously I had a Graphics Xpression, which
>>> also worked without problem. ATI cards seem to be a good bet.
>>
>> Except for the Rage 128 (Fury, Magnum) series.  Their RAMDACs aren't
>> fast enough for large desktops
> 
> Aren't they 230MHz (or faster)?

I'm not entirely certain, but I do know that I wasn't able to run my
monitor at it's maximum refresh in 1600x1200 mode.  My G200 and TNT
cards could.  For a card with 32MB of memory and being advertised the
way it is, it was surprising that they didn't use a faster RAMDAC.

>> and the heatsink on them is way too
>> small, I had two of these and they cooked themselves to the point of
>> melting the PCB and causing power-down failures after less than two
>> days of use.
> 
> Ugh, that's *bad*. JOOI, you weren't using them in a tower case
> were you? I've always been slighty concerned about overheating on
> cards which are horizontal with the chips on the underside (or on
> the top if there's another card above them). There's not exactly
> a lot of air flowing around that area of a case.

Granted, they cards were upside down in a tower case, but they were
in the exact same spot as my TNT and G200 cards, neither of which
overheat.  Both had the stock cooling hardware.


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