Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2011 21:50:16 +1030 From: Matt Thyer <matt.thyer@gmail.com> To: Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Cc: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>, "Thomas K." <fwd@gothschlampen.com>, Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>, Glen Barber <gjb@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Memstick image differences between 8.x and 9.x Message-ID: <CACM2%2B-55csG4k_uqziqd%2BHx763Sgn_qhpQ-s13hFH79iShU7Aw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAJ-VmompX_JwOs-pmp0J-2VRcxkxnBqVwr%2B8eLGcHE29D6nNoA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20111008155252.GA24223.edited@vs2.gothschlampen.com> <CAGH67wTeHVfb01Bc51%2Bd=XCct7cUBfobcg5zWM-Rn%2B3bdM43cg@mail.gmail.com> <4E90B4B1.7000009@FreeBSD.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1110081533330.9628@wonkity.com> <4E90C801.4060108@FreeBSD.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1110081616340.9628@wonkity.com> <CACM2%2B-7QLk6OSiSN-1MSpQjdbFy_HFpaW_zv-4enqvPHRF1=%2Bw@mail.gmail.com> <4E90EBF5.4090101@freebsd.org> <CACM2%2B-7hCYydByTCYANCJ_myLLmq3UOZPmsKKwko4o_6BvN1Fg@mail.gmail.com> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1110081926280.10288@wonkity.com> <20111009025047.GB13517@vs2.gothschlampen.com> <CACM2%2B-5piHBKd5Rd-%2Bfxb-Fhntvo%2B9U%2B0-apFaD=dCv=VCYZ%2BQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAJ-VmompX_JwOs-pmp0J-2VRcxkxnBqVwr%2B8eLGcHE29D6nNoA@mail.gmail.com>
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On 9 October 2011 21:44, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On 9 October 2011 19:10, Matt Thyer <matt.thyer@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Failure to boot the FreeBSD 9.0-BETA{2|3} memstick images does not
> indicate
> > a problem with a PCs BIOS/UEFI as these images are not properly
> formatted.
>
> Accepted.
>
> > If we were able to come up with examples of BIOS/UEFI that cannot boot
> from
> > GPT partitioned volumes there would not be a problem as long as
> bsdinstall
> > still supports partitioning volumes with MSDOS/MBR partitioning schemes.
> >
> > The big problem is being able to launch the installation process to start
> > with which is yet another reason to have the memstick image non-GPT even
> if
> > you could work out a script/kludge etc to be able to write a properly
> > formatted GPT memstick.
> >
> > The solution to this issue is obvious.
>
> Yes, it's "the current solution has a lot of unknown-how broken stuff
> about it, let's revert it for 9.0 and then use the 10.0 release cycle
> to do further research and testing."
>
Unfortunately there is no reasonable revert path here. bsdinstall is the
way forward and I agree it should be the installer for 9.0-RELEASE.
Currently bsdinstall relies on labels and that's a good thing (intelligent
design choice).
Work is already underway to make the memstick issue with UFS labels and
MSDOS/MBR partitioning and when that's done this issue will be solved.
So it's not a matter of reverting, it's a matter of forging ahead and
delaying the release as this is a show stopper.
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