From owner-freebsd-current Fri May 22 19:10:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA13548 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from freya.circle.net (freya.circle.net [209.95.95.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA13543 for ; Fri, 22 May 1998 19:09:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tcobb@staff.circle.net) Received: by freya.circle.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id ; Fri, 22 May 1998 21:58:38 -0400 Message-ID: <509A2986E5C5D111B7DD0060082F32A402FA65@freya.circle.net> From: tcobb To: "'Mikhail Teterin'" , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 21:58:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have successfully reduced the price of commercial boxen by requesting that they NOT place their default OS on it. For Win95, it often is a $60 to $80-ish discount, compensating for adding a nicer NIC or some other feature. With the Justice Dept. injunction against M$ last year, they are NOT required to allocate a M$ OS if one is not installed when the box leaves their factory. YMMV, -Troy Cobb Circle Net, Inc. http://www.circle.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Mikhail Teterin [mailto:mi@video-collage.com] > Sent: Friday, May 22, 1998 3:44 PM > To: current@FreeBSD.org > Subject: Re: SMP, Intel PR440FX, cpu monitoring, etc > > > Garance A Drosihn once stated: > > => Wiped out or not, it will still count as yet another NT computer > => in the world. Try to make sure they do NOT give you NT license. > => They'll probably refuse to give you a discount for that, though... > > [...] > > =On the other hand, it does strike me that it might be a good idea to > =happen to mention FreeBSD while you're ordering a box. If they get a > =few dozen calls where people say "Wow, this will be a great box for > =running FreeBSD", that might cause Insight to think FreeBSD is an > =interesting thing. (I imagine anything that helps to sell equipment > =would be interesting to them... :-) > > Exactly my point. Your message does not say "stupid", so I'll > elaborate. Just mention it. They do not have to actually remove > NT. And Mike was right, the license was already allocated. But it > will raise the point "Khmmm... Not all of our customers want NT"... > May be we should try to sell OS-less machines too? Or pre-loaded > with some other OS? It will not happen overnight, of course, but > there has to be some feedback to the manufacturer/merchant... > > -mi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message