From owner-freebsd-current Sun Dec 7 18:23:00 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA16820 for current-outgoing; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:23:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current) Received: from tera.com (tera.tera.com [207.108.223.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA16808; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:22:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kline@tao.thought.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by tera.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with UUCP id SAA03167; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 18:19:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from kline@localhost) by tao.thought.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) id RAA01035; Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:51:48 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Kline Message-Id: <199712080151.RAA01035@tao.thought.org> Subject: Re: 3.0 -release ? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971207135710.00924100@hyperreal.org> from Brian Behlendorf at "Dec 7, 97 01:57:10 pm" To: brian@hyperreal.org (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:51:48 -0800 (PST) Cc: grog@lemis.com, tlambert@primenet.com, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG Organization: <> thought.org: public access uNix in service... <> X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk According to Brian Behlendorf: > > Didn't a number of the PC-based Unix "vendors" (including Linus himself) > get together recently and decide to work together on a common binary code > format? Anyone have a reference for that? I read that somewhere:: EE TIMES, maybe... ((?)) > > I'll agree that it's usually politics and hubris that keep the BSD's from > merging more than anything else. It doesn't mean there are bits and pieces > that couldn't be integrated, and that there wouldn't be benefit from doing so. > Yes, and a common set of source-only ports for the *BSD's and *Linux's (and the HURD) is the best place to start. Not only the major ports that can be ftp'd, but the more obscure freeware projects are candidates. Something like PTF, but that would work after only a compile. No tweaking, no head-pounding. I understand Jordan's need to focus on FBSD, of course. This might be a niche for enterprising hackers who can invest hundred-hour weeks for months, years. gary PS to Terry Lambert: Your last note was well-written and insightful++; that about summed it up. > > -- -- Gary D. Kline kline@tao.thought.org Public service uNix