From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 20:24:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB085518; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B12A2E33; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=jhVCqOCcONDhIh1w2GEjcBn40ITekX4NlKMVE0oiDkw= c=1 sm=1 a=Z9FrMq5ANE4A:10 a=QrugwKR0C_UA:10 a=wAGQQ9Az6v0A:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=ICAaq7hcmGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IbtKDeXwb2+SRU442/pi3A==:17 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=BWvPGDcYAAAA:8 a=mCVjpchEzNlX4KiWFMAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SV7veod9ZcQA:10 a=V7tsTZBp22UA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO spqr.komquats.com) ([96.50.7.119]) by idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 08 Oct 2013 14:24:39 -0600 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD07D57; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id r98KOc5l058011; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@komquats.com) Message-Id: <201310082024.r98KOc5l058011@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.5 From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.komquats.com/ To: Julian Elischer Subject: Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base In-Reply-To: Message from Julian Elischer of "Tue, 08 Oct 2013 12:42:01 +0800." <52538D19.8000505@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:24:38 -0700 Cc: George Mitchell , Steve Kargl , freebsd-current X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cy Schubert List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:24:40 -0000 In message <52538D19.8000505@freebsd.org>, Julian Elischer writes: > On 10/8/13 12:34 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer > > wrote: > > > > On 10/8/13 9:33 AM, Steve Kargl wrote: > > > > On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 08:41:38PM -0400, George Mitchell wrote: > > > > On 10/07/13 20:28, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > > > Julian Elischer wrote this message on Tue, Oct 08, > > 2013 at 08:01 +0800: > > > > not a big thing but I believe that a lot of > > poeple use ci/co on /etc > > becasue it is "just there" > > > > +1 > > > > Folks, this is just plain a major violation of the > > Principle of Least > > Amazement. RCS is ideal for keeping track of my > > configuration files > > in /etc. What do we gain by removing it? > > > > Less GPL code in FreeBSD? > > > > not a problem unless you plan in shipping a changed version of > > it on your product?? > > > > > > > > Most new versions of GPL licensed code are converted to Version 3 GPL . > > > > This is blocking FreeBSD if they keep GPL licensed code in base , > > because commercial companies usingFreeBSD are not able to use > > FreeBSD any more if the FreeBSD switches to Version 3 GPL . > > > > This obstacle is in the base system GCC : It stayed in an older > > version , and necessitated to switch to Clang/LLVM . > > > > Difficulty of such a switch is apparenly known . > > Therefore cleaning base from GPL licensed code is a vital > > requirement for further progress WITH RESPECT TO FreeBSD Project > > structure . > > > > Thank you very much . > > sure but lets keep the one one in the the tree untill there is a > replacement ready to commit. ro 10 will have NO RCS which is a POLA. We do now have an rcs57 port which is the same as what was in base. The port could be made to _optionally_ install into /usr instead of ${LOCALBASE}. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org