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Date:      Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:37:00 +0000
From:      Brian Somers <brian@Awfulhak.org>
To:        "xuyifeng" <xyf@stocke.com>
Cc:        freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org, brian@Awfulhak.org
Subject:   Re: Threads in the base system 
Message-ID:  <200012062137.eB6Lb0t07362@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from "xuyifeng" <xyf@stocke.com>  of "Wed, 06 Dec 2000 21:21:24 %2B0800." <000f01c05f87$7406cbc0$5ac809c0@xyf> 

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I don't think it's possible to mix libc and libc_r in the same 
program (except as intended - with the libc_r stubs superseding the 
libc ones).

There are no ``alternative'' header files with different defines that 
might be used in one object and not the other, and the program is 
either linked against libc_r, or isn't (and will fail if it's got 
thread references).

I won't comment on Microsoft's shared library implementation.

> does this mean that we will have only libc_r.so and libc_r.a in FreeBSD 5.0 system?
> can we remove libc.so and libc.a?  let the system to default mulit-threaded enable?
> I know if I mix msvcrt.dll(DLL version) and libcmt.lib (static library) in M$ visual C++
> program,  memory will be corrupted,  (sometimes I can not avoid the problem because 
> of using third party libbrary),  is it true on FreeBSD if I mix using libc and libc_r 
> in same program?
> 
> Regards,
> XuYifeng
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
> To: <freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 11:11 AM
> Subject: Threads in the base system
> 
> 
> > 
> > Recently, pppctl was made thread-enabled, meaning that it relies on
> > libc_r.  This makes the NOLIBC_R cannot be used with buildworld anymore.
> > Given that making pppctl depend on !NOLIBC_R may not be all that helpful,
> > it looks like we may need to lose NOLIBC_R.  Presumably over time, threads
> > in default system applications will only become more popular.  Any
> > thoughts (especially in light of upcoming KSE changes, which will make
> > threading integral to the system architecture)?
> > 
> > Robert N M Watson             FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project
> > robert@fledge.watson.org      NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services

-- 
Brian <brian@Awfulhak.org>                        <brian@[uk.]FreeBSD.org>
      <http://www.Awfulhak.org>;                   <brian@[uk.]OpenBSD.org>
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