From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 12 01:26:13 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE82A16A4CE; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:26:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (VARK.MIT.EDU [18.95.3.179]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D46243D2F; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:26:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from VARK.MIT.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j0C1PqAc020343; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:25:52 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: (from das@localhost) by VARK.MIT.EDU (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j0C1Pn2a020342; Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:25:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from das@FreeBSD.ORG) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 20:25:49 -0500 From: David Schultz To: Ceri Davies , Xin LI , Gerald Heinig , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, kamalp@acm.org, Robert Ryan , tjr@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <20050112012549.GA20259@VARK.MIT.EDU> Mail-Followup-To: Ceri Davies , Xin LI , Gerald Heinig , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, kamalp@acm.org, Robert Ryan , tjr@FreeBSD.org References: <41DE4F3D.8050509@syskonnect.de> <20050107091004.83732.qmail@web52710.mail.yahoo.com> <20050107092110.GG49329@submonkey.net> <20050107101006.GA2553@frontfree.net> <20050108135526.GQ49329@submonkey.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050108135526.GQ49329@submonkey.net> Subject: Re: Benchmark: NetBSD 2.0 beats FreeBSD 5.3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 01:26:13 -0000 On Sat, Jan 08, 2005, Ceri Davies wrote: > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 06:10:06PM +0800, Xin LI wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:21:10AM +0000, Ceri Davies wrote: > > > I don't really think that this benchmark is bad news for either OS. My > > > only real concern are the process creation/termination results on FreeBSD. > > > > I guess that this might worth investigating: > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~das/pbench/pbench.html > > > > (Unfortuantelly, neither tjr@ nor I have touched our patchsets recently. > > A most recent snapshot of the two patchsets are here: > > > > http://research.delphij.net/freebsd/pid.diff > > http://research.delphij.net/freebsd/pid-tjr.diff) > > > > Most of the work was to catch up with Aug 2004's -CURRENT, but it might > > be easier to bring them up-to-date instead of working from the very original > > patches =-) > > Looks great. Any reason why neither has been committed? I've pinged Tim several times, but I think he's busy with his job in the real world to worry about "jobs" in FreeBSD right now. However, there's no rush. There's a lot of lower-hanging fruit in the fork/exec/exit path, including a gratuitous number of acquisitions and releases of Giant.