Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:39:02 -0500 From: Andrew Gould <andrewlylegould@gmail.com> To: telmnstr@757.org Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: why no Oracle on FreeBSD ? Message-ID: <d356c5630909250739w1a2fe51fv298a7854ebaff5a3@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.62.0909251021170.2696@users.757.org> References: <200909241735.n8OHZMVM099476@fire.js.berklix.net> <alpine.BSF.2.00.0909251754001.40555@freebsd> <4ABCBF61.20205@ibctech.ca> <Pine.NEB.4.62.0909251021170.2696@users.757.org>
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On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:28 AM, <telmnstr@757.org> wrote: > >> That whoever wrote that post is very closed minded, has no problem >> condemning something prior to investigation, and perhaps wears a pair of >> glasses that only come in one shade. > > Oracle is an expensive business application that is expected to be VERY > reliable. It's expected to have a high end support infrastructure behind it. > > This is why they limit the number of operating systems to a very specific > few, that are backed by companies with a reputation. I'm not vouching for > them, but most businesses aren't looking to plunk down $50,000 or $100,000 > for a database product for their mission critical application, and run it on > something that lacks a commercial support infrastructure behind it. > > RedHat is the only reason linux has gotten as far as it has in the heavy > business and gov't world. > >> I completely and utterly disagree with the claims made in that post. >> I've been using FreeBSD for nearly 10 years, and I vouch for the fact >> that FreeBSD has made huge strides during that time. Not only is the OS >> mature, but so are the people who write it, maintain it, and advocate it. > > While it has, it's still lagging. I can't even get a decent shell from the > FreeBSD install CD or boot CD. If the installer fails at getting the first > package, after you re-enter the information to try again, it seems to pick > up on package #2, skipping the first, which is probably the kernel. I took a > hiatus(sp) from FreeBSD and when I came back after spending a bunch of time > in the Linux world, I noticed some pretty sore things. > > I'm not hating on BSD, I'm still kind of meh about Linux, but I can see why > companies do what they do. A small firm webhosting stuff with MySQL is one > thing. Large corporations running mission critical databases is another. > > I assume Oracle goes through heavy lengths to certify their product on the > few OSes they officially support. Probably Solaris, Redhat and their own > Linux distro. This is a huge deal to them. > > Think of it as an appliance. If you hate Linux, help Solaris. Run your > oracle on your Solaris system, and hit it from your FreeBSD system. > > I'd be willing to bet there is little to no commercial demand for Oracle on > FreeBSD. Heck, look at all the SGI went through with Oracle, and the rumors > were that Oracle ran faster than any other platform on IRIX for a while. > Oracle wouldn't release it, maybe becuase Ellison and McNealy are BFF or > something. > ...and this, of course, brings us to the purchase of Sun Microsystems by Oracle. Expect Oracle to put a lot of emphasis on Solaris in the future.
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