From nobody Wed Nov 13 00:56:55 2024 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Xp4cd0kkvz5cv31 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2024 00:57:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Received: from stargazer.midnightbsd.org (stargazer.midnightbsd.org [IPv6:2603:3015:425f:100::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "stargazer.midnightbsd.org", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Xp4cc2q5sz4jk6 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2024 00:57:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=foolishgames.com header.s=default header.b=Fj64JVvz; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of luke@foolishgames.com designates 2603:3015:425f:100::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=luke@foolishgames.com; dmarc=none Received: from [192.168.1.199] (70-91-226-205-BusName-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.91.226.205] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by stargazer.midnightbsd.org (8.18.1/8.18.1) with ESMTPSA id 4AD0ut9O028893 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:56:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from luke@foolishgames.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 stargazer.midnightbsd.org 4AD0ut9O028893 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=foolishgames.com; s=default; t=1731459416; bh=kgYM59jvYy132rrgNi10W6Jjem1sX/6aWSpD7UrnpcY=; h=Date:Subject:To:Cc:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=Fj64JVvzexcNWawiJIaSPo1GzBZqkjkyff6+FIwxEfbUUam7re4eaq5m5J+WKSuoc v3AHQ5HR8R38kbdcfo9qsmorbIxc6iyEW3BX2WlQwcMWV8JX4JtcSpaCaA0FLigDsJ NCkrg0mxYTRoPUduAOjpem/rUOl3OnhZ6uUKodPM= X-Authentication-Warning: stargazer.midnightbsd.org: Host 70-91-226-205-BusName-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [70.91.226.205] (may be forged) claimed to be [192.168.1.199] Message-ID: <14e94da8-7839-49f7-9447-2157d2a97a6e@foolishgames.com> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 19:56:55 -0500 List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: Firefox and Thunderbird freeze system causing a reboot To: Richard Susgin , Pete Wright Cc: stable@freebsd.org References: <087cf5ee-186a-41ee-93ed-154588964d41@smo.de> <58157db8-7af9-41cd-9fa1-5f9677878f89@nomadlogic.org> Content-Language: en-US From: Lucas Holt In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 1.4.1 at stargazer.midnightbsd.org X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.39 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[foolishgames.com:s=default]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[foolishgames.com]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[foolishgames.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com,nomadlogic.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7922, ipnet:2603:3000::/24, country:US]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Xp4cc2q5sz4jk6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- On 11/9/24 8:28 AM, Richard Susgin wrote: > > Hello, curious situation with Mozilla?  I am not developing or > debugging at the moment but merely just using. Last week i updated > from FreeBSD13.1 to 13.4. Everything working in 13.1 but my FireFox so > outdated it was being rejected. After installing everything from > packaging and getting Xorg working everything seemed fine. XFCE > installed and ran with a few tweaks. Both FF and Thunderbird would not > start unless safe mode was invoked. I disabled composting in both and > they start and work perfectly sans acceleration. So after checking > around i find numerous posts about failing graphics stacks not being > able to connect. This may not affect u but it is definitely a thing. > Is this the end of Xorg and should we be using wayland? > Rick > > The grass isn't greener in wayland either.  Even on Linux systems, I've seen issues with thunderbird running very slow or hanging for periods.  It seems related to the message viewer code. -- Lucas Holt