From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 13:20:19 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B7A16A4D2 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:20:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c211-30-75-229.belrs2.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.75.229]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA79643D45 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:19:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1])i09LJV7B058342; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:19:31 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by server.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i09LJQJf058341; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:19:26 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 08:19:26 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: Daniel Lang Message-ID: <20040109211926.GR25474@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <20040107235737.I32227@pooker.samsco.home> <20040108075059.GK53429@silverwraith.com> <20040108075811.GJ48603@over-yonder.net> <20040108095207.GA52153@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20040108095207.GA52153@atrbg11.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:20:19 -0000 On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 10:52:08AM +0100, Daniel Lang wrote: >Matthew D. Fuller wrote on Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 01:58:11AM -0600: >[..] >> And, further, some of us don't have (and don't want) CD burners, and even >> if we had 'em, don't want to burn (no pun intended ;) a CD blank just to >> install an OS, when we can just (re-)use 2 floppies and do it across the >> LAN from a local FTP mirror, which is as fast as a CD drive anyway. > >That's no point, as you can use a CD-RW, so no media is wasted. Not all CD readers will read CD-RW's (I have one that won't). And this doesn't solve the problem of not having a CD burner or installing onto a system that either doesn't have a CD drive or won't boot off one (I have systems in both categories). >On the other hand, I guess such systems are able to boot over >the network. I'd love to see a integrated boot and installation >procedure that utilizes PXE (or any other network boot method) >and advocates it. (In this regard I just love Suns). Keep in mind that older systems probably won't boot over the network without a netboot ROM or similar. The netboot ROM images are (or were) in the distribution but aren't much use without an EPROM burner. Peter