From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Feb 6 8:33:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from lusitania.sunsecure.net (unknown [208.136.254.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA9A37B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:33:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from guinevere (gateway [216.63.158.30]) by lusitania.sunsecure.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f16GUn221911; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:30:50 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006901c0905a$5fc66db0$0e01a8c0@guinevere> From: "J. Seth Henry" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: questions-digest V5 #85 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:32:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given the description of the problem, I would say that the problem is in X. Every great once in a while, my X session will lock - producing similar symptoms: no keyboard/mouse. The system is far from dead though. I have a dumb terminal attached to one of the serial ports, and I can log in as root and kill the offending processes. Then, I kill -HUP init, and this *usually* restores the console. Keep in mind, it's only happened about 3 or 4 times - and it worked twice... ;) If that doesn't work, I can gracefully shutdown the system. Definitely recommended! Since you said you could ping the machine, which implies you have more than one on your network. You should be able to telnet/ssh in and do the same. Good luck, Seth Henry jshenry@net-noise.com Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:45:10 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Durham Subject: 4.2 Problem possibly I/O related Due to the nature of this problem, I can't do any tracing. I have noticed several times since upgrading to 4.2-RELEASE that the system will just "freeze". When this happens, you can still ping the IP of the machine on the local network, but you cannot get a telnet or ftp connection. You can not switch from X to a virtual terminal. The mouse pointer is non-responsive. The NUMLOCK key on the keyboard is non-responsive. However, something is still alive, as you can ping it. The only way out is a reboot. This is definitely "Un-FreeBSD-Like" behavior! I have been running FreeBSD for about 3 years on this machine, a P200MMX with 64 megs RAM and Tyan motherboard. The only clue I have is that I was attaching a 1.5 meg file in Netscape mail. I have also had this happen on certain web pages. Not ofter, but once or twice in a couple months. The other time I have had this happen was when writing to a bad floppy disk (bad sectors) using mtools. The file attachment caused a lot of disk activity and perhaps, given the floppy's causing the same of similar problem, this is I/O related? Just a wild guess. This could, of course, be a hardware problem that is creeping up, or a problem in XFree86 (I've never seen this in a virtual terminal). Anyone else seen this kind of behavior? I'm fairly certain that 4.1 did not do this. Does anyone have a suggestion for getting some useful information from the system. There is no crase, per se, so no crash dump. - -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message