From owner-freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 6 19:50:06 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDFC106566C for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:50:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-java@m.gmane.org) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3328FC17 for ; Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:50:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-java@m.gmane.org) Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Kc3nG-00080f-FB for freebsd-java@freebsd.org; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:50:02 +0000 Received: from 81.210.229.80 ([81.210.229.80]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:50:02 +0000 Received: from saper by 81.210.229.80 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:50:02 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org From: Marcin Cieslak Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 21:47:49 +0200 Lines: 58 Message-ID: <48C2DE65.3080005@system.pl> References: <48BE7D9D.9090500@FreeBSD.org> <200809031816.04525.achill@matrix.gatewaynet.com> <20080903205006.GA66614@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <200809060837.m868bRTB032738@d12av03.megacenter.de.ibm.com> <379573552.20080906183413@serebryakov.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-ripemd160; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigE1795B0F77A692D1D335F74B" X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.210.229.80 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.16) Gecko/20080721 MultiZilla/1.8.3.4e SeaMonkey/1.1.11 In-Reply-To: <379573552.20080906183413@serebryakov.spb.ru> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Sender: news Cc: Mark Hindess , Lev Serebryakov Subject: Re: OpenJDK BSD Port project: why FreeBSD Java Fondation is not metioned? X-BeenThere: freebsd-java@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting Java to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:50:06 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigE1795B0F77A692D1D335F74B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Mark. > You wrote 6 =D1=81=D0=B5=D0=BD=D1=82=D1=8F=D0=B1=D1=80=D1=8F 2008 =D0=B3= =2E, 12:36:39: >=20 >> I suspect that some FreeBSD users would prefer a "java" with a license= >> that is closer to the BSD license. Perhaps, they'll use Apache Harmon= y? >> (It might actually be working on FreeBSD in the same sort of time >> frame.) > But many users would prefer Java(TM), because many commercial > products will lost support if Java palatform is not Java(TM)... >=20 This will last only that long as long the bugs will be fixed fast and=20 new features implemented will be timely and in due manner. There are two = examples from the past: 1) OpenSSH vs. SSH.com Almost everybody switched to an alternative, because it got better, and=20 it was free. 2) OpenOffice.org vs. go-oo.org In this case SCA and the Sun process seems to be obstacle in faster=20 development. Interesting discussion went there: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.ximian.openoffice/2618 I don't know which way the JDK will go, however. --Marcin --------------enigE1795B0F77A692D1D335F74B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQCVAwUBSMLeZj2W2v2wY27ZAQNbPgP8CoiJIxoOQsr8/NEoSKxhGLxPQHoA03Fo GoUDROLfLTDR0NxMBK+IYLl98i7P+pprVSWPu0kpkeq7R/nIuh+C0NMdhcBvEG0r VWyL6gNzSulrTJG042TKvBwhi20uSkYazFNO5QCKKST2OIsee5DeNNRpb20zrClj rOc78HEjN/g= =JFPI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigE1795B0F77A692D1D335F74B--