From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 29 18:20:03 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16357 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:20:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail.scsn.net (scsn.net [206.25.246.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16284 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:19:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dmaddox@scsn.net) Received: from rhiannon.scsn.net ([208.133.153.44]) by mail.scsn.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-41950U6000L1100S0) with ESMTP id AAA145; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:17:31 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by rhiannon.scsn.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) id VAA01593; Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:18:55 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from root) Message-ID: <19980129211855.59084@scsn.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:18:55 -0500 From: dmaddox@scsn.net (Donald J. Maddox) To: Brian Somers Cc: Greg Lehey , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The BSD License Reply-To: dmaddox@scsn.net Mail-Followup-To: Brian Somers , Greg Lehey , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19980129202019.32143@scsn.net> <199801300203.CAA26796@awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <199801300203.CAA26796@awfulhak.org>; from Brian Somers on Fri, Jan 30, 1998 at 02:03:06AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG X-To-Unsubscribe: mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org "unsubscribe hackers" On Fri, Jan 30, 1998 at 02:03:06AM +0000, Brian Somers wrote: > [.....] > > Ok, at this point, I think I have asked the wrong question. It seems > > to me that the important question wrt STAC is 'What are licensing terms > > acceptable to the FreeBSD core team for software included in the base > > distribution?', not 'What is the meaning and intent of the BSD license?'. > > > > Core team members are cordially invited to address this issue, if you > > will... > > I'm not sure that this is the correct question either. > > The rfc seems to indicate to me that they are not willing to give > their software away without at least an NDA. That in itself is not a > problem if they're willing to tell us (or me) how to implement the > algorithm (and don't place any restrictions on that knowledge). If > they were willing to do this, I would have thought it would already > be explained in the rfc. Unfortunately it isn't. > > We need to ask them if they will give us enough knowledge to > implement STAC compression *without* an NDA, without any licensing > requirements and so that the resulting code can be distributed with > FreeBSD for the world to see and use without restriction on that > usage. This `knowledge' may be in source code form already or it > may be a spec.... > > Feel free to give 'em my name, although I'm no expert on copyrights. Brian, I believe that you would definitely be the most qualified person to talk with Ms. Poland on this matter... You're clearly the master of the code that will be most affected by this, and you obviously have a better grasp on what is acceptable, or not, than I am likely to gain tonight :-) I can send you contact information for Ms. Poland in private email, if you would be willing to contact her, or alternatively, I could ask her to contact you, if you give me a number...