From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 4 21:27:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE62C1065672 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:27:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perrin@apotheon.com) Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 558718FC20 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 21:27:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 28853 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jan 2012 21:27:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box543.bluehost.com) (74.220.219.143) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 4 Jan 2012 21:27:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apotheon.com; s=default; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=SLU1s1KiuTjlHfmcSskv96wGRILrcWoAuKRzGUwUGFM=; b=aZtx4qRmKJo+Ljctujqc4ZWSYy4vN2HelW3NzEagPQqCsHJrg5d3+3ABTGIuEr/foLUpOKOR2FED3CeIwmkxm5sjSqPOBpaHoN84oy8S/qd+TuKF2MtSLxPsZ/8RvGT5; Received: from c-24-8-180-234.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.180.234] helo=localhost) by box543.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RiYMM-0005xU-Th; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:26:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:26:56 -0700 From: Chad Perrin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20120104212656.GA15264@hemlock.hydra> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, questions@freebsd.org References: <20120104165405.GF8500@hemlock.hydra> <8C0EEF92-18FD-45A8-90EF-F26EC8762704@googlemail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8C0EEF92-18FD-45A8-90EF-F26EC8762704@googlemail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Identified-User: {2737:box543.bluehost.com:apotheon:apotheon.com} {sentby:smtp auth 24.8.180.234 authed with perrin@apotheon.com} Cc: Subject: Re: Browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:27:23 -0000 On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 08:48:35PM +0000, Peter Harrison wrote: > > Chad, > > xxxterm is in ports - at least I have it installed on my netbook and > although I can't remember how it got there, I never (ever) install > stuff that's not in ports. Thanks for correcting that. I did not find it last time I looked, though I may have relied on a nonstandard ports tree search tool that sometimes (unexpectedly) fails to update its search database. It's good to hear xxxterm is available in ports. > > I installed for exactly the same reasons you're looking at it - fast > lean browser with good (vi-like) keybindings. I'm playing with it now. I find I need to rebind a lot of functionality to make it feel really vi-like, and some of the bindings I would like to use are not possible with the keybinding configuration capabilities of xxxterm as they are currently implemented. The maintainer has invited me to submit a patch; whether I do so will definitely depend on how much time I have to figure it all out. In the meantime, I'm checking to see how well I can get by using it as my primary browser for a while. > > Firefox runs like a dog on my atom processor, but I do still keep it > around for some stuff although compiling to keep their release schedule > is gradually turning me off. I don't blame you. > > First impressions of xxxterm are that it's very good. The keybinding is > quite as good as uzbl or vimperator on firefox, but it's live-able > with, and it seems to have fewer performance or configuration > downsides. > I find the keybindings of Uzbl and Pentadactyl better than those of xxxterm so far; I stopped using Vimperator in favor of Pentadactyl a while back, so I'm probably not qualified to comment on its current state. Did you mean to say "The keybinding is *not* quite as good . . ." or did you mean it is, as you wrote it here? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ]