From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 9 12:16:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A6E37C3E3 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:16:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr05.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11446; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:16:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr05.primenet.com(206.165.6.205) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAXTa4kw; Fri Jun 9 12:16:01 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr05.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA22768; Fri, 9 Jun 2000 12:16:19 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200006091916.MAA22768@usr05.primenet.com> Subject: Re: nullfs broken on alpha? To: mjacob@feral.com Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin), alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Matthew Jacob" at Jun 08, 2000 08:22:48 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > So, err, uh, there's a lot in this mail, but the obvious questions are: > > 1. Why haven't you put the changes into FreeBSD? As I said: to make the changes small enough to be palletable, they have to be broken into smaller parts. The smaller parts have no obvious utility, and often appear to be gratuitous changes which can not be justified by themselves. > 2. Why don't we also have a working devfs checked in? Some people claimed they needed persistance other than rc.local, and the SLICE code is pretty much required for it to work. Be aware that my devfs is based on Julian's, but not identical; I don't have persistance, and I mount it as / with one subdirectory /dev, and then union mount the real root over top of it. This lets me use device arrival events as a result of device probes and the "last mounted on" field to pick my mount points. I have an fstab, but it's mostly for NFS and administrative override to force an arriving device to _not_ be mounted (e.g. "/mnt" was the last mount point, or the device would be mounted on a device-named mount point like "/cdrom", and I don't want that or there is more than one CDROM device in the box). Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message