From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Nov 20 2:46:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-64-165-226-105.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [64.165.226.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4DA37B416 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF23A66D56; Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 02:46:43 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Anthony Atkielski Cc: setantae , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: home pc use Message-ID: <20011120024643.B92409@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <3BF9B12B.3D521A4D@nycap.rr.com> <20011119220243.A268@prayforwind.com> <009a01c171a9$4eedbee0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <00cd01c171ac$ca0fa0e0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20011120102625.GB75402@rhadamanth> <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00d201c171af$61dccb80$0a00000a@atkielski.com>; from anthony@atkielski.com on Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 11:37:35AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > No, I mean that they are all overcomplicated and bloated, compared to non= -GUI > systems. This is a tautological statement ("code which needs to do more complicated things is more complicated and larger"). > There is no such thing as a simple GUI with Windows-equivalent > functionality. And complex GUIs have more of a tendency to crash; occasi= onally > they make take the OS with them, depending on their design and the design= of the > OS. This is an overgeneralization; under FreeBSD it's very rare for a window manager bug to "take out the OS". Even if the X server crashes the system still runs. > > That's simply not true. >=20 > It's absolutely true. There's no such thing as a system that never crash= es. > GUIs tend to crash a lot more than non-GUIs, because of their complexity. To be pedantic, it is true. In real terms, well-written and well-tested simple window managers rarely have catastrophic bugs. I can't remember the last time I had problems with windowmaker, for example. Kris --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7+jSTWry0BWjoQKURAvdwAJ0YOo4tleJud+pA9ujHiWoun4oY1gCggznY qkCW+R7m53tIPeOQi4NlAvA= =UkSh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message