From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Dec 6 13:26:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [216.33.66.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29F937B405 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:26:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1192) id 7B60D81E10; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:26:16 -0600 From: Alfred Perlstein To: gkshenaut@ucdavis.edu Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can TCP changes be put in RELENG_4? Message-ID: <20011206152616.D92148@elvis.mu.org> References: <20011206094209.A60489@ussenterprise.ufp.org> <200112062112.fB6LCmI41514@thistle.bogs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112062112.fB6LCmI41514@thistle.bogs.org>; from greg@bogslab.ucdavis.edu on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 01:12:48PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Greg Shenaut [011206 15:12] wrote: > In message <20011206094209.A60489@ussenterprise.ufp.org>, Leo Bicknell cleopede: > > Speaking as someone with a lab full of older machines, including > some 8MB 386SXs happily humming along under FreeBSD, and no machine > with > 32 MB, I obviously am going to disagree vehemently with this > entire line of argumentation. (I always build a custom kernel for > my machines, but if you required 64MB or more just to boot the > installation floppy, I would have to go buy RAM just to have a > machine to install the next version on. Ptui!) > > However, I do see the value in making it easier to have a faster, > more memory-intensive kernel, so why not just provide a "turbo > kernel" in the standard root distribution along with the current > "generic kernel"? Shoot, I think even casual, non kernel-configuring > users might be interested in comparing performance under the two > kernels; plus, having the config file for the turbo kernel available > for perusal in the kernel source would be a big plus in my book. Considering how trivial it is to build a "kern.flp" nowadays, I'm suprised that: 1) No one has made a HOWTO on doing this. 2) No one has added to the standard release additional boot floppies. 3) No one has fixed up the CDrom image so that the loader prompts for several different kernels specially made for machines with low memory. *shrug* It's not that difficult, but my TODO list is about 2 miles long at the current time. -- -Alfred Perlstein [alfred@freebsd.org] 'Instead of asking why a piece of software is using "1970s technology," start asking why software is ignoring 30 years of accumulated wisdom.' http://www.morons.org/rants/gpl-harmful.php3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message