Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 10:41:18 -0600 From: Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu> To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Ion3 removal (Re: Ion3 license violation) Message-ID: <E5B60E72267CC0028FE96B97@utd59514.utdallas.edu> In-Reply-To: <slrnfm21lc.7a5.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> References: <20071212213200.D576216A469@hub.freebsd.org> <200712121701.57460.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071212183542.f9bf5e55.wmoran@potentialtech.com> <200712121930.46708.mi%2Bmill@aldan.algebra.com> <20071213021217.GA3535@soaustin.net> <slrnfm1ol8.mqu.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> <20071213080139.GA14110@soaustin.net> <slrnfm1rce.so4.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi> <20071213090833.GA15789@soaustin.net> <slrnfm21lc.7a5.tuomov@jolt.modeemi.cs.tut.fi>
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--On Thursday, December 13, 2007 10:17:16 +0000 Tuomo Valkonen
<tuomov@iki.fi> wrote:
> On 2007-12-13, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:30:06AM +0000, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
>>> The copyright holder reserves the right to refine the definition of
>>> significant changes on a per-case basis.
>>
>> In other words, a moving target -- which implies, to me, that to be
>> legally in the clear, that we would first have to vet every possible
>> change or modification, including patches.
>
> Notice the "a priori": it means you're allowed to do that without legal
> threat until further notice to the contrary.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Geez, IANAL, nor do I have a dog in this fight, but if *you* can't see that
the underlined phrase places the object of the clause in constant and
persistent legal jeopardy, then perhaps *you* need to hire a lawyer.
Let me see if I can boil this down to simple English.
The license is what is is, unless and until I say it's not. Therefore, you
can use it, for now, but you need to pay close attention because I might
change it at some point in the future and *then* you will be liable.
<sarcasm>Yeah, I'm going to sign up for that one.</sarcasm>
While watching this thread, I at first thought the decision to remove your
software was a bit arbitrary. You have convinced me otherwise.
--
Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
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