From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 25 16:22:40 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB94F37B401; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8225643FE0; Wed, 25 Jun 2003 16:22:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from mail by mx.nsu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19VJip-0007su-00; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:30:39 +0700 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru ([193.124.215.97] ident=root) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19VJhA-0007f6-00; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:28:56 +0700 Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (fjoe@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h5PNKjMk093607; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:20:45 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: (from fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h5PNKj5w093606; Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:20:45 +0700 (NSS) Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2003 06:20:45 +0700 From: Max Khon To: Dmitry Sivachenko Message-ID: <20030625232045.GB92939@iclub.nsu.ru> References: <20030624164602.GW7587@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030625135106.GA19868@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030625140518.GA23435@fling-wing.demos.su> <20030625144849.GJ7587@garage.freebsd.pl> <20030625145233.GA28322@fling-wing.demos.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030625145233.GA28322@fling-wing.demos.su> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Envelope-To: demon@freebsd.org, nick@garage.freebsd.pl, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=0.13.6.3 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-106.0 required=5.0 tests=BOGOFILTER_TEST_PASS,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES,USER_AGENT_MUTT, USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jailed sysvipc implementation. X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 23:22:41 -0000 hi, there! On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 06:52:33PM +0400, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: > Yes, that is exactly what I want. > This is similar to separate IP stack for each jail: this is more powerful > solution, but more expensive (uses more kernel memory). > > Jail is not a true virtual machine. > Let's keep it a *light* virtual machine replacement, with single IP stack, > one memory zones for all jails and host, etc. btw I know of two projects whose goal is IP stack virtualization for jail. Virtual IP stack (as well as virtualized sysvipc with separate memory zones) can be quite useful. Can provide two solutions? - with shared memory zone (for those who want "light" version) - with separate memory zones (for people who want to keep sysvipc fully separated, i.e. one user can't exhaust all sysvipc resources and make sysvipc unusable for second user) /fjoe