From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 6 17:08:55 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D5816A418; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [209.31.154.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB6913C447; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:08:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwatson@FreeBSD.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [209.31.154.41]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F4344EB8C; Sun, 6 Jan 2008 12:08:55 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2008 17:08:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Robert Watson X-X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Ivan Voras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20080106170452.L105@fledge.watson.org> References: <20080106141157.I105@fledge.watson.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When will ZFS become stable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:08:55 -0000 On Sun, 6 Jan 2008, Ivan Voras wrote: > Robert Watson wrote: > >> I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet in the thread, but another >> thing worth taking into account in considering the stability of ZFS is >> whether or not Sun considers it a production feature in Solaris. Last I >> heard, it was still considered an experimental feature there as well. > > Last I heard, rsync didn't crash Solaris on ZFS :) My admittedly second-hand understanding is that ZFS shows similarly gratuitous memory use on both Mac OS X and Solaris. One advantage Solaris has is that it runs primarily on expensive 64-bit servers with lots of memory. Part of the problem on FreeBSD is that people run ZFS on sytems with 32-bit CPUs and a lot less memory. It could be that ZFS should be enforcing higher minimum hardware requirements to mount (i.e., refusing to run on systems with 32-bit address spaces or <4gb of memory and inadequate tuning). Robert N M Watson Computer Laboratory University of Cambridge