From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 17:35:29 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDB816A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:35:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE73543D1F for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:35:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i3so417109wra for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=t35wsYhH4XXnx/ECWKZ0hbZQy41n71rzZfBw6WvOa9osTXAnv2B3d/gnKW9lPS/9IuqTzMA2o84XbVTUsjDD5PtAagNbzBFoPE4hpuDsRAuU8ayuD4wJCktBOteQz0NnFw4EPdMOPSFYyNNvyp1En9xjLvaVqNLkup8C6NVmsQs= Received: by 10.54.57.56 with SMTP id f56mr3457709wra; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.124.2 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 10:35:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 12:35:28 -0500 From: Nikolas Britton To: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" In-Reply-To: <7C24F382-C0CA-4AD6-AAB5-F52DB0D8EFAD@shire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200506270945.j5R9jkoR032624@mailserver3.hushmail.com> <7C24F382-C0CA-4AD6-AAB5-F52DB0D8EFAD@shire.net> Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: freebsd as the basis for something better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Nikolas Britton List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:35:29 -0000 On 6/27/05, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: >=20 > On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > To bring UNIX to the masses one of the first things we need to do is > > make installing and running apps easy. Right now we are in what once > > was called "DLL Hell" in windows 3.x, is this the best we can do? Hard > > drive space is a non issue today so what is wrong with making fat > > binaries that that have all the dependencies compiled into one file. > > Another apple idea is making the binaries platform independent so it > > will run on an i386, ppc, sparc, etc. This is the biggest problem I > > have with UNIX. > > > > Step 1: Download the app from developer foo's website. > > Step 2: Double click on the app. > > Step 3: The app launches and the dam thing just works. > > > > What is so hard about this guys? > > > > Anyways... here's a cool video from back in the day, 1991 (DOS 5.0 and > > windows 3.0 in microsoft's timeline), with steve jobs demoing > > NeXTSTEP. Microsoft's windows still can't do some of the stuff they > > where doing back in 91. It a quicktime video btw: > > http://www.openstep.se/jobs/ >=20 > Is there any wonder that the people who have already brought "Unix" > to the masses is Steve Jobs and the historical descendent to OpenStep > (NEXTStep) -- Mac OS X? >=20 > Most of what is described above exists in OS X already. Anyone want some Cocoa?