Date: Wed, 09 Jan 2019 13:21:33 +0300 From: Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology> To: Gunther Nikl <gnikl@justmail.de> Cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMDGPU RX580 OpenCL Message-ID: <1547029293.34223.0@smtp.migadu.com> In-Reply-To: <20190108191830.00004a83@justmail.de> References: <CAFYkXjnVOspenga%2BM0oP-0pS=vxr4gmqs7XcrJZdSjnf1geEZA@mail.gmail.com> <20190102070113.1e9781fc9ac1c37bba8f1800@sohara.org> <CAFYkXjny-6Wihc=6=AGE3Vo6y6X2LMeD=T9LnzX1VbkXZW2YBA@mail.gmail.com> <1546646937.2475.3@smtp.migadu.com> <20190105122042.00004687@justmail.de> <1546691721.1768.0@smtp.migadu.com> <20190108191830.00004a83@justmail.de>
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On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 9:18 PM, Gunther Nikl <gnikl@justmail.de> wrote: > Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology > <mailto:greg@unrelenting.technology>> wrote: >> > Slightly OT, but can you describe what is required to get Wayland >> > running? What additional software is required? Can I (still) use >> > xterm, >> > Opera 12, etc? >> >> Yes, you can run any X apps, Xwayland makes that work. > > Are you using Xwayland yourself? Of course. It's always been supported out of the box in most compositors, you just run an X app and it works. Though I don't rely on that very much, as most applications work natively on Wayland! (Even Firefox, if you build nightly from source) > >> So, if you want Wayland, >> >> - most importantly, you need a kernel built with the EVDEV_SUPPORT >> option, otherwise you won't get any input devices > > AFAIK, this requires at least 11.2? I don't follow releases, but it's been there for a long time. >> - (btw you can use evdev+libinput in Xorg too) > > Do I need something special for Xorg when building/configuring? Probably not, just install xf86-input-libinput. >> - EVDEV_SUPPORT has been enabled by default in CURRENT and >> 12-STABLE, so 12.1 will be the first release to get evdev out of the >> box I think > > I am on 11.2-RELEASE. Then I have to build a custom kernel. > >> - set sysctl kern.evdev.rcpt_mask=12 to get events from individual >> keyboards/mice instead of the multiplexer — important for >> touchpads > > Ok. > >> - also it's very nice to have a kernel with >> <https://reviews.freebsd.org/rS342768>; (just landed in CURRENT, >> will be >> merged into 12-STABLE after a week) — otherwise unresponsive >> applications can make the whole desktop unresponsive (kinda like in >> the good old Mac OS 9.x days :D) — but it was surprisingly rare, I >> lived with that bug for over a year > > I noticed that differential. I suppose the patch can be applied on > 11.2+? Yes. Well, maybe the infiniband part won't, but it doesn't matter, you can just ignore that. Why are you staying on 11 on a desktop? ;) >> - for now, you need access permissions on /dev/input* devices — >> I've >> been working on fixing that, there are patches (on differential for >> the kernel, on github for libudev-devd) but you can just chmod g+rw >> /dev/input/* and ignore security lol >> >> - you need mesa, the UI toolkits, etc. built with wayland support >> — >> thankfully, it's on by default in ports now, so it should all be in >> the official packages already :) > > Up-to here it should be doable. > >> - well, you need a compositor: >> - there's Sway <https://github.com/swaywm/sway>; which has FreeBSD >> support and it's already in a sort of user friendly state (for >> advanced users :D) >> - there's my development fork of Weston >> <https://github.com/myfreeweb/weston>; + it needs to be launched with >> <https://github.com/myfreeweb/loginw>; — this is in development, >> not >> really documented >> - KDE Plasma5 kwin_wayland — won't run directly on the desktop >> right now I think, only in a window. I'll need to investigate >> ConsoleKit2… > > This looks bit more involved. Thank you for these instructions! I > think > this will help me get started. As Jan mentioned, Sway is now in ports.
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