From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 19:57:44 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FF016A41F for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:57:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C443D6A for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:57:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.48.2]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 465CBBC7A; Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:57:39 +0000 (UTC) To: Peter Wemm From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:47:13 PDT." <200510271147.13917.peter@wemm.org> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 21:57:39 +0200 Message-ID: <25022.1130443059@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: Gordon Bergling , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wscons for FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 19:57:44 -0000 In message <200510271147.13917.peter@wemm.org>, Peter Wemm writes: >A syscons replacement isn't such an enticing deal if it still leaves all >the 'console' issues. Changing something for the sake of change >without fixing the problems just causes transition pain for no benefit. Agreed. >Don't forget, we have to deal with the Xservers as well. Also things >like libvgl. syscons, with all its warts, runs on i386, amd64, alpha, >sparc64 and there are patches to make it work on ia64 around somewhere. ...but studying the source code, one can't help wonder if somewhere inside there is a small device driver struggling to get out... -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.