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Date:      Fri, 01 Sep 2006 01:14:46 -0400
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net>
Cc:        gnome@freebsd.org, Andy Fawcett <andy@athame.co.uk>, kde@freebsd.org, kde-freebsd@freebsd.kde.org
Subject:   Re: [kde-freebsd] Re: Conflict between KDE and GNOME in a prefix...
Message-ID:  <1157087686.99321.31.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <op.te6miro39aq2h7@mezz.mezzweb.com>
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On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 23:24 -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:09:37 -0500, Jeremy Messenger <mezz7@cox.net> wrot=
e:
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> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:26:00 -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke =20
> > <marcus@marcuscom.com> wrote:
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> >> Andy Fawcett wrote:
> >>> Hi Joe, Mezz, Gnome, KDE,
> >>>
> >>> On Saturday 26 August 2006 20:50, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 2006-08-26 at 03:43 -0500, Jeremy Messenger wrote:
> >>>>> Hello folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We, FreeBSD GNOME Team, have successed to move GNOME from X11BASE
> >>>>> to LOCALBASE. There are three files that are conflict between KDE
> >>>>> and GNOME. The two files that need to be fix in the KDE side and
> >>>>> another file that is need to be fix both in the GNOME and KDE
> >>>>> sides.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/conflict_prefix.txt
> >>>>>
> >>>>> etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu:
> >>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> >>>>> GNOME and KDE teams will have to figure how to solve this problem.
> >>>>> Take the looks at the other Linux distros or so would be a good
> >>>>> start. If you have any good suggest, let us know.
> >>>> We might need to create a small port that just handles conflicting
> >>>> files such as this one.  applications.menu is not huge, and should b=
e
> >>>> interchangeable between GNOME and KDE.
> >>>
> >>> How different are the versions installed by Gnome & KDE?
> >>>
> >>> But yes, possibly we need an 'xdg-menu' port to cover such files.
> >>
> >> mezz could probably better answer this.  They should be comparable sin=
ce
> >> we're using the same xdg stuff.
> > <snip>
> >
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~mezz/menu/
> >
> > Both KDE and GNOME applications.menu are in ~mezz/menu/, so you can =20
> > compare the difference. We can either merge both of applications.menu =20
> > into one or try to rename applications.menu to =20
> > (kde|gnome)-applications.menu. I am not sure about <MergeFile> =20
> > stuff...so.. What I have in my mind is something like this below, but I=
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> > have no idea if it will working. If that don't work, then do either =20
> > merge into one or hack all apps for rename of applications.menu.
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> It doesn't work, I tried to play with it for about two hours and still no=
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> luck with <MergeFile>. Either I need to learn more or it is limited. =20
> However, it looks like that leave us two choices:
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> 	1) Rename both of applications.menu and hack
> 	   in the ports to teach them about the new
> 	   name.
> 	2) Create our own applications.menu that will
> 	   working for the general desktop.

I think option 2 would be best as who knows how much future hacking will
be required if we rename the files.  I was also poking around NetBSD and
Gentoo to see how they handle this.  These menu files are substantially
different enough to cause some problems.  I wonder if there is a better
solution that we're missing.  Does anyone have any insight into what
other platforms are doing?

Joe

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