Date: 30 Jun 99 02:45:46 PDT From: Jesus Monroy <jesus.monroy@usa.net> To: Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> Cc: tlambert@primenet.com, advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Re: [Re: [Re: My FreeBSD Experience ]]] Message-ID: <19990630094546.10406.qmail@www0j.netaddress.usa.net>
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Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com> wrote:
> > > There is a difference between taking away options, and taking away
> > > useless options.
> > > =
> > > For example, it should be impossible to install x86 FreeBSD without=
> > > writing a DOS partition table and a DOS-capable MBR, and it should
> > > be impossible to install Alpha FreeBSD without a similar DEC-UNIX
> > > compatible record. That the tools permit something like that
> > > occuring at all is a commentary on the foibles of the tools.
> >
> > Wait, I disagree with you Terry. I beleive the issue
> > one using a DOS-capable MBR is pretty well in-hand.
> > The way the installation currently works you get
> > a DOS-capable MBR bt default. =
> > =
>...........[MAJOR SNIP]..............
> =
> A friend of mine recent upgraded from 2.something release to
> 3.something release. This is a UNIX engineer who has decases of
> computer experience under his belt. It took him, literally, 3
> tries and about 6 hours to do this supposedly simple task. This
> was primarily the fault of the boot block changes, the fact that
> by default, the "obviously correct action" in a number of areas
> was the wrongest possible thing you could do (luckily, he had
> tape backups of his /usr -- I told you he had experience), and
> the /etc reorganization being poorly supported on upgrade.
> =
> If a UNIX engineer has this sort of trouble, then an ordinary
> mortal who is not even UNIX literate is going to have a much worse
> time of it.
> =
I see your point, but no solution. I know the =
boot block is badly documented. As a matter of fact,
the documentation in FreeBSD is incorrect, or at least the =
notes.
May notes I see, in the code and occasionaly in man(1)
pages are just wrong. Mind you I not going to run
down these daemons I just don't have the energy for
a fight like that. =
In any case, I move camps, IF you can present a
decent alternative. Never mind the political battle, if =
you have a worthy idea, I will at least read (listen).
If I agree, you'll get my support and voice. (if you want)
---
"I'd rather pay for my freedom than live in a bitmapped, =
pop-up-happy dungeon like NT."
http://www.performancecomputing.com/features/9809of1.shtml
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