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Date:      Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:34:16 +0400
From:      Dmitry Sivachenko <demon@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>
Cc:        Maxim Sobolev <sobomax@FreeBSD.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, mi@aldan.algebra.com, will@physics.purdue.edu, jedgar@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, asami@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/net/samba-devel Makefile distinfo pkg-plist ports/net/samba-devel/files patch-aa patch-af
Message-ID:  <20010419003416.B10067@netserv1.chg.ru>
In-Reply-To: <486700000.987618197@lobster.originative.co.uk>; from paul@originative.co.uk on Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:23:17PM %2B0100
References:  <3ADDD24C.8EEC6053@FreeBSD.org> <486700000.987618197@lobster.originative.co.uk>

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On Wed, Apr 18, 2001 at 07:23:17PM +0100, Paul Richards wrote:
> --On Wednesday, April 18, 2001 20:43:41 +0300 Maxim Sobolev
> <sobomax@FreeBSD.org> wrote:
> 
> > Jordan Hubbard wrote:
> > 
> >> Perhaps I should have made my position more clear: FreeBSD 4.3 will
> >> not ship with a broken samba.  If necessary, we'll simply delay the
> >> release until it's fixed.
> > 
> > It isn't broken per se. The problem is that the ports freeze did not
> > catch new, long awaited, 2.2.0 release, thus 2.2.0 package will not be
> > shiped with 4.3 (but older 2.0.7 will).
> 
> Hmm, if the release of FreeBSD 4.3 can be held up because of Samba 2.2,
> then what about Gnome 1.4?
> 
> Gnome 1.4 is a hell of a lot more effort to download and build than Samba
> 2.2 so it would be a lot more beneficial to have that on the CD than the
> newest Samba. How close to being ready is the Gnome 1.4 port, Ade? I also
> suspect that the majority of users will see more benefit from it that
> Samba-2.2, which mostly benefits corporates with Win NT/2k boxes.
> 
> Perhaps release dates should be arranged in liaison with some of these
> other projects in future. That would be good for our relationships with
> other projects, and our own product too.
> 
> I think delaying the release so that it includes the best current versions
> of some key ports is a good idea so I'm in favour of the slippage, but
> doing it for Samba does sort of set a precedence and if Gnome 1.4 was to
> get committed in the next few day there'd be a strong case for including it.
> 

samba, GNOME, postgresql-7.1, ......

Every day new releases of software appear.  It will be endless cycle
of waiting new and new releases...

Let's just release FreeBSD, or it will never happen :-)

--dima

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