From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 25 11:21:56 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD1B1065673 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: from smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.32]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80AC8FC15 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slackbox.erewhon.net (slackbox.xs4all.nl [213.84.242.160]) by smtp-vbr12.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o6PBLsBO003259; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from rsmith@xs4all.nl) Received: by slackbox.erewhon.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B3AA6BAAC; Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:21:53 +0200 From: Roland Smith To: Michel Talon Message-ID: <20100725112153.GA98965@slackbox.erewhon.net> References: <20100725100812.GA8297@lpthe.jussieu.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20100725100812.GA8297@lpthe.jussieu.fr> X-GPG-Fingerprint: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 X-GPG-Key: http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/pubkey.txt X-GPG-Notice: If this message is not signed, don't assume I sent it! User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: TexLive on FreeBSD 8.1 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:21:56 -0000 --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 12:08:12PM +0200, Michel Talon wrote: > Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > > Antonio Olivares wrote: > >=20 > > > Sorry to ask about this since this has been beaten to death many > > > times, but I *wonder* why FreeBSD does not have TeXLive as default > > > tex installation? > >=20 > > As TeXLive 2009 doesn't have binaries for FreeBSD ;) You can try TeXLive > > 2008 instead. >=20 > Maybe the problem is that TexLive is a monster (already teTex is a > monster)=20 What other alternatives are there? teTeX is no longer being maintained. > that many long time TeX users don't want on their hard disk. Personally, as a long-time TeX user, I don't mind. On the contrary, I like = it that a lot of packages are included and preconfigured in TeXLive. > Having TeXLive as a port would be nice, having it as the default TeX > seems to me stupid. It means that installing any port which has a > dependency on TeX would install this several hundred mega bytes monster > for any one, even those who don't intend to use TeX in any way.=20 About half of the ports that depend on TeX are actually tools that use TeX. For most of the others it is optional, usually for building documentation. (Run 'find /usr/ports/ -type f -name Makefile -exec grep -Hi tetex {} \; | less' and see for yourself.) I would agree that most project would do better just to provide ready-built docs in PDF, HTML or text format rather than depend on TeX. > Even > most TeX users have no use for LuaTex and other niceties of TexLive. Then don't install them. The TeXLive installer is quite flexible. As for LuaTeX, that will become the default TeX engine over time, like pdfTeX is n= ow. Roland --=20 R.F.Smith http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/ [plain text _non-HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated] pgp: 1A2B 477F 9970 BA3C 2914 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725) --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkxMHlEACgkQEnfvsMMhpyVUGACfYCbL7AphMcSdzP6tT0NoLubT 5W4An0iD2+L2Zch5FC1LtkDZPcQuu9TC =73bj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--