From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 9 13:49:07 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D8216A4CE for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:49:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from unix18.sihope.com (unix18.sihope.com [207.195.195.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3777843D2C for ; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 13:49:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) Received: from unixws1 (unixws1.sihope.com [207.195.195.190]) by unix18.sihope.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id hB9Llf8p094314; Tue, 9 Dec 2003 15:47:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from adamm@sihope.com) From: Adam Maloney To: Vahric MUHTARYAN In-Reply-To: <04a601c3be9c$e79bf840$019c9752@xp> References: <042601c3be94$c2ff3bd0$019c9752@xp> <001d01c3be97$90ac83b0$3d1f1fac@corp.firstlink.com> <20031209212344.GB93443@complx.LF.net> <04a601c3be9c$e79bf840$019c9752@xp> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1071006459.15221.223.camel@unixws1> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 15:47:41 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: Freebsd isp isp cc: Kurt Jaeger Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2003 21:49:07 -0000 On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 15:39, Vahric MUHTARYAN wrote: > Thank I think I will use your method :)) and you method is everyones methode > .... :))))) That's been our experience too - most everyone I talk to rebuilds everything from source to upgrade. > and one more question I'm linux admin I can say more Redhat Admin :) We have > Redhat 7.2 , 7.3 , 8.0 and 9.0 server but I did not think to update or > promode any server to new version Do you alwyas update freebsd's when new > stable version released ? like 4.9 to 5.2 I usually only update for security reasons, and then only on machines that are affected. I've never run into a situation where I've needed some new feature/bugfix in the latest -stable, other than for security. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kurt Jaeger" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: Who are using FreeBSD for Hosting Env. and Which Update Method > > > > Hi! > > > > > Which verison FreeBSD are you using ?! > > > > Most of the server: 4.9. Some bit-rot, we're working on it. > > > > > How long does it take to complate all process ?! > > > > For one server, if it's fairly recent: approx. 10 minutes of > > person-time, approx. 1-2 hours wall-clock (compiling). > > > > > You mean I can make source up-to-date (cvsup) / make world process at > this > > > moment server can response to web clients ?! > > > > Yes. Only a short time (during the installworld and mergemaster) > > the system is in a somehow fragile state, but it works most of > > the time, so we do it in multiuser. > > > > The update 4.9 -> 5.2 will probably be much more difficult and > > we will test it extensibly, before we do it on production servers. > > > > > Why don't you choose binary update methode . Does it have problem ?! or > it's > > > not a true way to keep up-to-date FreeBSD > > > > Good question 8-) > > > > > and do you test those process on other machine before apply those > patches to > > > your production server ?! > > > > Yes, intensivly. We first do it to our desktop systems and testservers > > (approx. 40 systems) before we make the rollout to the visible servers. > > > > -- > > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 17 years to > go ! > > LF.net GmbH fon +49 711 90074-23 pi@LF.net > > Ruppmannstr. 27 fax +49 711 90074-33 > > D-70565 Stuttgart mob +49 171 3101372 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-isp@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-isp > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-isp-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >